Sesquashtoo

Orbx's TrueEarth scenery, WILL be the nail in the coffin for FSX/P3D

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For aerial-based scenery...low altitude moving plane capture, or sat based capture, When Orbx starts banging out their TrueEarth series,  Laminar Research is going to sell a you-know-what load of current XP copies...

TrueEarth driven by P3D or FSX, LOOKS (their Netherlands Alpha) like hand-crafted Land-class based, in color pallet, that still no matter what, and even with post-processing, still looks like a living cartoon.  When I saw the U.K. XP-based TrueEarth teaser on the Orbx site...my jaw dropped BELOW the computer desk top.

Real life...was there before my eyes...and there was the best road way and highway depictions I have ever seen to date.  They must be tweaking that as well...or however they are doing it....totally believable, and of course, you could see that they had Shadows enabled for the train cars casting along the tracks.  They are going to make a killing on this new tech. A killing....and I am going to be first in line, like it was an Apple Iphone release day...LOLOLOL!

 

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Lets check back in 5 years and see if your prediction comes true.

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At least Ses is right in the purchase department for me.  I only buy stuffs for XP11 these days.  ORBX in P3D has reached the point of good enough and also enough. XP11 on the other hands is new market, plus I don't have to deal with the annoying micro stutters.  

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Glad you like the England and Barton airport scenery Mitch :)

5 years is quite a long time and we'll have to see where it goes. Whilst it seems to be true that X-Plane is seeing a surge of new users and developers recently, the P3D/FSX userbase is still going strong and I think will continue to do so for years to come. 

We also have no idea what DTG will do with their platform, and were AF2 will be. It's a pretty exciting time for flight sims anyway

 

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For instance me, one of the most stable simmers in the World, have just gone back to P3Dv4 !

Enjoying the March update of the FSlabs A320 more than everything...

Instead of expecting the goodies to go all towards X-Plane's terrain, I wish I can find a good scenery for LPPT and other Portuguese airports for P3Dv4, while I'm more than satisfied with ORBX FTX Global...

 

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45 minutes ago, awreaper said:

Lets check back in 5 years and see if your prediction comes true.

Alright..fair enough! :)

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Until LR fixes the ground handling and some other aerodynamic issues, it'll continue to be off-putting to P3D users.

If it were just about graphics, XP11 already beats P3D by a mile with Ortho4XP.

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22 minutes ago, tonywob said:

Glad you like the England and Barton airport scenery Mitch :)

5 years is quite a long time and we'll have to see where it goes. Whilst it seems to be true that X-Plane is seeing a surge of new users and developers recently, the P3D/FSX userbase is still going strong and I think will continue to do so for years to come. 

We also have no idea what DTG will do with their platform, and were AF2 will be. It's a pretty exciting time for flight sims anyway

 

Oh sure, Tony, fair enough...but, still saying, that if true-to-life is what is the highest rung on your ladder in simulation scenery depiction...then what I saw on that XP UK teaser vid...IS, the Holy Grail!  Wow...some of those scenes coming onto final...wow...no words...upon release...SOLD!

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Why do we need all of these "predictions" by zealots of one platform or other? If you love XP11, cool, knock yourself out, but these predictions of doom for one platform or other like the title of this thread serve no purpose and go nowhere.

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18 minutes ago, jcomm said:

For instance me, one of the most stable simmers in the World, have just gone back to P3Dv4 !

Enjoying the March update of the FSlabs A320 more than everything...

Instead of expecting the goodies to go all towards X-Plane's terrain, I wish I can find a good scenery for LPPT and other Portuguese airports for P3Dv4, while I'm more than satisfied with ORBX FTX Global...

 

Jcomm, I'm not saying, or hope people don't think that I am saying, that P3D doesn't still have a following, but it is night and day, their TrueEarth tech, as being run through the MS-based graphics engine, and then the XP.  The animation, the colors...so important. For people that want to run with the TrueEarth (and I imagine that those that do, are after veritus scenery, and not land-class, or color pallets that compliment land-class based scenery.)  Someone should put (I don't have the video skill(s)) both TrueEarth   P3D driven Netherlands and XP drive U.K in a half-frame alongside each other...and I would love to read the (if you can get them), non-partisan comments on what the viewer thinks shows a more life-like representation of this new TrueEarth production. That would be interesting.

The nail in the coffin...I still believe, will be in those that want real-life depiction, want and would install aerial photo driven content, and would seek out the aforementioned over land-classed, or FSX/P3D's pastel color pallets.  Just a personl opinion in play. The future will tell, if I was way off base...

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5 minutes ago, DavidP said:

Why do we need all of these "predictions" by zealots of one platform or other? If you love XP11, cool, knock yourself out, but these predictions of doom for one platform or other like the title of this thread serve no purpose and go nowhere.

Trends...and what we think will happen as new scenery tech arrives.  Trends...and personal opinions. :)

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22 minutes ago, bonchie said:

Until LR fixes the ground handling and some other aerodynamic issues, it'll continue to be off-putting to P3D users.

If it were just about graphics, XP11 already beats P3D by a mile with Ortho4XP.

Yes..I'm typing about that exactly...that the XP engine compliments and brings out all the best of Orbx's new scenery project.  FSX/P3D in my opinion, shows its age and acts like a visual filter to TrueEarth.  Each to their own, of course!  My $$$ will be purchasing this series for XP.  It looks like the real deal...truly. Running that Orbx U.K teaser vid...I feel that I'm there...  With the Netherlands, running under FSX/P3D.x,  I feel I'm looking at flight simulator scenery. My brain is not fooled, nor convinced.

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9 minutes ago, Sesquashtoo said:

Yes..I'm typing about that exactly...that the XP engine compliments and brings out all the best of Orbx's new scenery project.  FSX/P3D in my opinion, shows its age and acts like a visual filter to TrueEarth.  Each to their own, of course!  My $$$ will be purchasing this series for XP.  It looks like the real deal...truly. Running that Orbx U.K teaser vid...I feel that I'm there...  With the Netherlands, running under FSX/P3D.x,  I feel I'm looking at flight simulator scenery. My brain is not fooled, nor convinced.

How bout putting some of that $$$ to your favorite soapbox, AVSIM. 

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5 minutes ago, Henry Street said:

How bout putting some of that $$$ to your favorite soapbox, AVSIM. 

Stepped on some toes, did I? :)

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Just now, Henry Street said:

Money talks and BS walks.

Comment isn't relevant to the discussion.  Remember, when you point the finger at someone, the thumb points back on the back stroke. lol.

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Pick the time frame and pick the amount, I will bet you the XP user base will not exceed the P3D user base. 

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2 minutes ago, Henry Street said:

Pick the time frame and pick the amount, I will bet you the XP user base will not exceed the P3D user base. 

Not saying that it will eclipse...I'm saying that for that type of scenery....XP has shown its superiority.  That's what I'm saying.  It will climb in adoption, much faster with TrueEarth in play, than what was status quo.  I think this tech is a pivotal point for displaying that the type of graphics engine is now, more than ever, a decision-dictating adoption by a user. Before this TrueEarth...not so much. A lot of persons did not want to mess around with Ortho4XP, and obviously, Orbx has access to better base content...and it clearly shows. P3D/FSX (of course in my personal opinion) does not do TrueEarth any compliment, nor justice.  It wasn't designed for such scenery.

As far as whether one stays with FSX/P3D and future Orbx content...or picks up for the first time XP, or already having it, will now send more $$$'s XP's way...will be seen. My money is on XP.  That money will be going to all TrueEarth content, Henry.

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Please keep the discussion civil guys.

Maybe for the first time in the history of Avsim, a "vs" thread doesn't end up locked :)

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¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Bold statements should be backed up with bold action. I'm out @tonywob

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4 minutes ago, tonywob said:

Please keep the discussion civil guys.

Maybe for the first time in the history of Avsim, a "vs" thread doesn't end up locked :)

Right, civil as always. No chest thumping needed. Just sayin' what's on my mind. :)  

Cheers,

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Yawn. Not even worth making any popcorn.

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The last thing we need is a Flight Sim monopoly.  Keep 'em all alive and well, working to outdo each other.  We, as users, reap the benefits -  trickle-down though they may.

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22 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said:

Yawn. Not even worth making any popcorn.

That made me laugh.

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What will get many to change is $$. I spent thousands on FSX to come to Xplane i had to remove it all, I am not going to spend money on a dead horse, not that FSX is dead, but how much more with they spend before they realise it must end, than where has all the money gone. I could have spent it on a better PC and got xplane, i could have gone to P3d, see teh dilema, we have to make a break someday, and teh longer we leave it the more it will cost and teh more we waste.

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