May 24, 20188 yr Hi. I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I can't find a post. The problem is that I am a serious FSX fan, but I have been convinced P3D is an updated version of it, and I'm happy to invest in it. My question is regarding atc. If you look at the Licencing of the P3D page, it mentions ATC for the Professional ($199) version, but not the Academic licence ($59.95). So is there no ATC in the academic version? Either way, it's the ATC in P3D very different to the one in FSX? I would really appreciate it if someone can let me know as I'd love to try P3D out! Thanks, Gaz How does Moses make his coffee? Hebrews it. I took the shell off my racing snail, thinking it would make him run faster. If anything, that made him more sluggish. Gaz on Facebook
May 24, 20188 yr There are great and better alternatives to use for the FSX style ATC. Pilot2ATC and ATC-PRO X are two of the best. Bill Edited May 24, 20188 yr by Bill Griffith Attempting to stay within the Forum rules. Bill N7IBG
May 24, 20188 yr Author Neither of those products look good for me. I know there are faults with the FSX ATC, but it runs my aircraft alongside the other aircraft in there. Doesn't P3D have much at all in any version? Gaz How does Moses make his coffee? Hebrews it. I took the shell off my racing snail, thinking it would make him run faster. If anything, that made him more sluggish. Gaz on Facebook
May 24, 20188 yr 32 minutes ago, Gary McCluskey said: Hi. I'm sorry if this has been asked before, but I can't find a post. The problem is that I am a serious FSX fan, but I have been convinced P3D is an updated version of it, and I'm happy to invest in it. My question is regarding atc. If you look at the Licencing of the P3D page, it mentions ATC for the Professional ($199) version, but not the Academic licence ($59.95). So is there no ATC in the academic version? Either way, it's the ATC in P3D very different to the one in FSX? I would really appreciate it if someone can let me know as I'd love to try P3D out! Thanks, Gaz Gaz The P3DV4 Professional and Academic are exactly the same program and features. The academic has a watermark in the upper right hand corner. The ATC is very similar to FSX if not the same. I use Pro-ATC X, which is great for airliners. Greg Greg Morin Commercial ASMEL Instrument CFI Beta Tester i Blue Yonder, Flightbeam and Milviz
May 24, 20188 yr PF3 is also very good. UK P3DV5 and Xplane 11 SimmerPilotEdge I11, CAT11, A-Z (ZLA), A-Z (WUS) System details: Gigabyte P57v7 CF2 17.3" laptop. Kaby Lake i7 7700HQ CPU (averaging 3.4mhz). NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 8mb (laptop version), 16 GB of DDR4-2400 RAM, SSD - Samsung 970 Evo 500GB M.2 NVMe, 1TB HDD 7200.
May 24, 20188 yr Author Thanks for that, it really helps. I don't think that FSX ATC is great, but I use Ultimate Traffic, and I understand Pro-ATC doesn't work with that kind of traffic - only your aircraft? I think there is something similar to Ultimate Traffic for P3D? Sorry if I'm wrong, but please let me know... Gaz How does Moses make his coffee? Hebrews it. I took the shell off my racing snail, thinking it would make him run faster. If anything, that made him more sluggish. Gaz on Facebook
May 24, 20188 yr If you´re somehow happy with fsx atc you´ll be fine with p3d atc. And yes pro-atc does not work wit ia traffic, but is probably one of the best investments I´ve made on P3D. If you fly IFR that is. I mainly fly thru Europe on a phenom 300 with GTN750 and VR. cheers Carlos Edited May 24, 20188 yr by chass32 NLR Motion Platform V3, Intel Core i9-9900K OC @ 5Ghz, Gigabyte Gaming OC 11GB RTX 2080ti, Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra. Thermaltake Water 3.0 Riing LED RGB 360. Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3000 PC4-24000 32GB 4x8GB CL15. Lexar Professional NM700 M.2 2280 PCIe Gen3x4 NVMe 1TB SSD. Toughpower iRGB Plus 80 Plus Platinum 850W Full Modular. Thermaltake View32 TG USB 3.0 RGB. Oculus Rift S. Qled Samsung 65Q7FN.
May 24, 20188 yr Hi Gary, I use Prepar3D v4.2 Academic and the ATC engine seems to be the same as what I had in FSX. For more realistic AI traffic, I use "Ultimate Traffic Live" and it does a good job. I never invested in a 3rd party ATC software simply because I don't use it, so I cannot comment on those. Normand Intel i7 14700K @ 5.6 GHz / Asus ROG STRIX Z790E Wi-Fi / 64GB DDR5 6400 MHz / MSI RTX 4080 / PSU 1000 Watt / FS2020+FS2024 / Windows 11
May 24, 20188 yr Author Hi NBouc, thanks. I like to use the ATC, and I know it's not great, but it's pretty important to me. Yeah, I agree, Ultimate Traffic is great. Does that work with P3D, or will I have to buy a different version? Thanks, Gaz Edited May 24, 20188 yr by Gary McCluskey How does Moses make his coffee? Hebrews it. I took the shell off my racing snail, thinking it would make him run faster. If anything, that made him more sluggish. Gaz on Facebook
May 25, 20188 yr I'm using UT Live with P3Dv4.2... Russ Master Sergeant, U.S. Air Force, Retired Former T-33A Crew Chief Former B-1B Crew Chief / Flightline Maintenance Expediter Former Learjet Corp. Quality Inspector Formerly Young (😩)
May 25, 20188 yr Gary, UT2 is not directly compatible with P3D. UT Live is. But if you are up to the task, here's a link to a tutorial made by "Poppet" explaining how to install UT2 into P3Dv4 despite UT2 not being compatible with P3D. If UT2 uses some FS9 AI models, these might not work in P3D. Edited May 25, 20188 yr by NBouc Normand Intel i7 14700K @ 5.6 GHz / Asus ROG STRIX Z790E Wi-Fi / 64GB DDR5 6400 MHz / MSI RTX 4080 / PSU 1000 Watt / FS2020+FS2024 / Windows 11
May 25, 20188 yr Commercial Member 7 hours ago, Gary McCluskey said: Thanks for that, it really helps. I don't think that FSX ATC is great, but I use Ultimate Traffic, and I understand Pro-ATC doesn't work with that kind of traffic - only your aircraft? I think there is something similar to Ultimate Traffic for P3D? Sorry if I'm wrong, but please let me know... Gaz I use Pro-atcx with UTL (Ultimate Traffic Live) and booth work fine together. Simbol Oficial Website: https://www.FSReborn.com Discord Channel: https://discord.gg/XC82TqvKQ3
May 25, 20188 yr 7 hours ago, chass32 said: And yes pro-atc does not work wit ia traffic Sorry, but thats nonsens: of course Pro-ATC recognize the AI traffic and you hear the transmission between ATC and AI. I use UTL and PATC together, for me the best solution as i mainly fly 738 and 777. For VRF the better ATC solution is PF3 as far as i have heard. System: i9 [email protected] - 32 GB RAM - Aorus 1080ti --- Sim/Addons: P3D v5 + ProSim737
May 25, 20188 yr 8 hours ago, chass32 said: If you´re somehow happy with fsx atc you´ll be fine with p3d atc. And yes pro-atc does not work wit ia traffic, but is probably one of the best investments I´ve made on P3D. If you fly IFR that is. I mainly fly thru Europe on a phenom 300 with GTN750 and VR. cheers Carlos strange it works for me the ai traffic using ut2 live I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
May 25, 20188 yr Author I'm slightly confused.. I read that that ProATC does not talk to the AI traffic generated in Ultimate Traffic Live. It would be an interesting thing to try if it works together... I'm taking it that we're talking P3D ? Thanks, Gaz How does Moses make his coffee? Hebrews it. I took the shell off my racing snail, thinking it would make him run faster. If anything, that made him more sluggish. Gaz on Facebook
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