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Intel i9 9900k to hit 5GHZ - Do you have one Rob?!

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Hi All,

Understand it's speculation at this point however with a possible release date only 7 days away thought I'd throw the link out there and see what the mood from other simmers was? Details seem to point to a Turbo clock of 5GHZ on one of the 8 cores and high 4s on all the others. There are overclocking reports out there of 5.5GHZ being attainable.

 

I expect Rob Ainscough will have a comprehensive review up for us in short order!!

 

I have been putting off a new rig for about 6 months however will be looking to pull the trigger on one of these and the 1180 presuming the rumours are confirmed and we see some concrete details and a possible release date in August!

 

 

 

 

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A lot of cooling power that boy is going to need to hit those values, the i7 8700k can also hit 5GHZ, but needs to be delidded.

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11 minutes ago, dmarques69 said:

A lot of cooling power that boy is going to need to hit those values, the i7 8700k can also hit 5GHZ, but needs to be delidded.

I have run my stock 8700k at 5.0GHz with with a Corsair H150i AIO with no problems.  Temps occasionally spike to 85C, but average around 75C when running P3D.  Only reason I don't stay at 5.0GHz is I dislike hearing the fans constantly cycling up and down.  I keep a steady 4.9GHz with barely noticeable fan cycling.

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5 minutes ago, dmiannay said:

I have run my stock 8700k at 5.0GHz with with a Corsair H150i AIO with no problems.  Temps occasionally spike to 85C, but average around 75C when running P3D.  Only reason I don't stay at 5.0GHz is I dislike hearing the fans constantly cycling up and down.  I keep a steady 4.9GHz with barely noticeable fan cycling.

With no delid? thats impressive, i cant get those temps above 4.7, even on summer i have to get down a bit to 4.5 or 4.6, you have a better cooler however.

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1 minute ago, dmarques69 said:

With no delid? thats impressive, i cant get those temps above 4.7, even on summer i have to get down a bit to 4.5 or 4.6, you have a better cooler however.

No doubt there's also variability in CPU thermal compound effectivity.  I may have just been lucky. 

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56 minutes ago, dmiannay said:

No doubt there's also variability in CPU thermal compound effectivity.  I may have just been lucky. 

Hmm i might try pushing my 4770k a littlebit on its finally days.

I have it at 4.7 ht off at 1.25v with PMDG and at 1.315v with fslabs. Temp about 65-75.spikes at 80. 

Worst is GPU. they seem to behave normally below 70c (9700sli)so i use NVI to control fans manually at about 50%

Thanks Michael Moe 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Johnny19 said:

i'm planning to get 9900, upgrading from 6700k

No one tried the 8086k special edition? 😀

 

 

Thanks Michael Moe 

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Oh course I'll get one as soon as available.  But the CPU performance/price point that is a perfect match for Flight sims is the 9700K as it comes without HT and 8 cores (just 8 real cores no fake ones).  The 9900K will be a bargain at $450, but 9700K even cheaper at $350.

Don't forget we also have the 1180's and 1170's and 1160's due out soon (August 22nd is the latest I heard, but I'd suggest Aug/Sept).  It might take a month or two before we'll able to actually get one in retail (depends on BitCoin miners July 27th will be key indicator of where BitCoin is contracts expire by CME).  But I believe nVidia will have preventive measures hardwired into the 1180's that would make them unattractive as compute devices for crypto type processing ... but I'd expect BitCoiners would still buy as many as possible initially until they discover they perform worse than current GPUs for those types of tasks.

Cheers, Rob.

EDIT: Best price/performance most likely:

nVidia 1170Ti
Intel 9700K

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Based on the information we have now. Any guestimates on how would i9-9900k perform at a same clockspeed compared to 8700k in p3d.

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3 hours ago, dmiannay said:
3 hours ago, dmarques69 said:

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, dmarques69 said:

 

https://imgur.com/ivReUJR

no delid, h100 I v2, p3d v4.3 with settings pretty much maxed out -including TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10, mesh 2m. the pict is leaving LAX with AI, over orbx. and using ASN.  ..Oh, and no noise - cooler is chilled by a pair of Noctua NF s12a 120mm fans  ...And there's no AVX offset. 🙂

And to the layman, and in practical P3D terms, the I5 8600K is virtually the same processor as the 8700K -if you're not using hyperthreading ... if one uses it, my 8600k will simply out perform it on all the important levels.

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29 minutes ago, Rob Ainscough said:

.... as it comes without HT and 8 cores (just 8 real cores no fake ones). 

Cheers, Rob.

 

huh?  <vbg> 

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26 minutes ago, Rob Ainscough said:

But the CPU performance/price point that is a perfect match for Flight sims is the 9700K as it comes without HT and 8 cores (just 8 real cores no fake ones).  The 9900K will be a bargain at $450, but 9700K even cheaper at $350.

A number of different variables go into what is the "perfect match for flight sims", but the most important to me is the max single core clock speed.  Also, some folks actually do make use of HT, and as well some might find the extra 25% of L3 cache worth the extra cost (whatever that may be.. still something else we don't know yet).

Indeed this is looking to be a good time for us simmers... the i9/i7 CPU's and the 11 series nVidia GPU's should make for a strong combo!

Greg

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3 hours ago, dmarques69 said:

With no delid? thats impressive, i cant get those temps above 4.7, even on summer i have to get down a bit to 4.5 or 4.6, you have a better cooler however.

Excuse me for butting in, but have been considering a cooler as i am running 85-86c. Would the Corsair H150i fit into my case? Corsair 750? Or can someone tell me how to pick one that fits a case? I have looked on the internet and haven't found a source for sizing. Thanks, and excuse the interruption please.

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26 minutes ago, lownslo said:

A number of different variables go into what is the "perfect match for flight sims", but the most important to me is the max single core clock speed.  Also, some folks actually do make use of HT, and as well some might find the extra 25% of L3 cache worth the extra cost (whatever that may be.. still something else we don't know yet).

Indeed this is looking to be a good time for us simmers... the i9/i7 CPU's and the 11 series nVidia GPU's should make for a strong combo!

Greg

Yeah, I get it Greg ... 🙂

I'll be interested in the 9700K ....curious if those two extra cores will be meaningful. I can tell ya, at cruising altitude (above orbx so and nor cal) all six of my cores are running at damn near 100%; however, on the ground and on a short final my cpu is half asleep.

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9 minutes ago, lennie said:

Excuse me for butting in, but have been considering a cooler as i am running 85-86c. Would the Corsair H150i fit into my case? Corsair 750? Or can someone tell me how to pick one that fits a case? I have looked on the internet and haven't found a source for sizing. Thanks, and excuse the interruption please.

Hi Lenny.  I quick look at Corsair's site shows that the Corsair H150i is not compatible with a "stock" 750D.  The H150i is a 360mm cooler, which means it has 3x120mm fans attached to the radiator.  The only way I see it working for you is if you remove the optical drive cage to allow room for a 360mm arrangement at the top.  With some custom fiddling, i'm pretty sure you could make one fit, but can't be 100% sure.  Suggest you do some searching on YouTube to see if anyone has tried it.

Note:  The stock 750D has room for a Corsair H115 Pro (280mm) rad, in front or on top, or an H100i  (240mm) rad in either location.  If you have other questions, feel free to send me a message.

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31 minutes ago, lennie said:

Excuse me for butting in, but have been considering a cooler as i am running 85-86c. Would the Corsair H150i fit into my case? Corsair 750? Or can someone tell me how to pick one that fits a case? I have looked on the internet and haven't found a source for sizing. Thanks, and excuse the interruption please.

I was looking at the 750d ...ended up with a 300d - I have an EATX mobo. 

You should have enough room without worrying about modification. The thing to be mindful is the rams slots.  The 150 has the tubes coming out on the side of the heat block -might run into ram sticks. ...I hear the 150 is not much better than h100 v2  which has the tubes on top of the block ,,,,something to consider..

Edit ....my post is in addition to what Doug said.

 

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what Doug said

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33 minutes ago, lennie said:

can someone tell me how to pick one that fits a case?

https://www.ekwb.com/configurator/  ... this walks you thru the process and then comes up with a recommendation. I've had very good success with 60mm thick radiators.

Cheers, Rob.

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Just one more thought on this new hardware coming down the pipe:

At what point do we start worrying about getting data to the cpu? I have to tell ya, FPS is not an issue for me anymore. No. My concern now is getting data to the cpu now. I can run all day and night with TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=10, full dynamic lighting, shadows, ai -pretty much everything reasonably maxed out at 1440P and not have an FPS issue. My issue is getting untimely disk reads or writes that stall the sim using the above mentioned settings ...and yes, I think I understand it that LM does not officially support text 10, but I like it!!!. Man, sometimes I just wanna put P3D on a ram drive and be done with it..

 

Are SSD drives cutting it any more?  Maybe LM can allow us to cache more of the sim ...entire regions if possible.

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Please!! No one ask LM for any new features and maybe....just maybe we can run Ver4.3 with this new Tech coming out for a few months. Perhalps we could get 3 months of peace and satisfaction.😜

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37 minutes ago, shivers9 said:

No one ask LM for any new features and maybe....just maybe we can run Ver4.3 with this new Tech coming out for a few months

Too late for that I'm afraid, everyone (end users and 3rd party) have been pushing for PBR ... better lighting accuracy will always come at a performance cost but lets hope code optimization can recover some of the PBR performance cost.

Cheers, Rob.

 

EDIT: but who knows, maybe LM will provide an option to run the old HDR or new PBR ... but is that really an option?  I'd imagine all will select PBR and do the usual max all sliders out and toss in 100's add-ons and then start posting about P3D performance problems 😉 ... oh well, gives us all something to do in helping folks work the reality 🙂

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2 hours ago, lennie said:

Excuse me for butting in, but have been considering a cooler as i am running 85-86c. Would the Corsair H150i fit into my case? Corsair 750? Or can someone tell me how to pick one that fits a case? I have looked on the internet and haven't found a source for sizing. Thanks, and excuse the interruption please.

Lennie the H150i as a 396mm radiador and triple fans, you have to check if the case as that space on top or behind. Dont know if the Corsair 750 as, check in the specs.

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4 hours ago, Rob Ainscough said:

EDIT: Best price/performance most likely:

nVidia 1170Ti
Intel 9700K

Would the 9700K require a new motherboard? My present one is an Asus Pro Gaming Z170 (see sig) which I think some others are using, too.

Kind regards, Michael

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