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Hi All,

I am in interested in purchasing the Rex Skyforce 3D but i already have Active Sky cloud art and REX soft clouds. Will the REX SF make a huge difference in the sim or what i have is good enough? Your honesty and unbiased thoughts and opinions would be appreciated to make a decision.

Thank you

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I loved REX Soft clouds. I used AS & ASCA but preferred Solf clouds.

Now I used SF I use it with AS-ASCA with ENVTEX for sky colour only. I've never seen cloud formations as I do with SF and the clouds are like Soft clouds. Its all about the formations SF brings. Turn off there WX. 

Some people prefer AS with ASCA but personly I find the look harsh and when you have used Soft clouds I want that soft cloud look. SF brings all that and formations that really make all the difference. Also overcast for me looks amazing with no FPS hit and when you're under full overcast the clouds can be all dark and foreboding until you fly through and break out and then you have a full overcast under you, wonderful.

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I agree. The SF weather engine still needs a few more tweaks and options, but its cloud formations are superior to anything in either P3d4 (or XP11 for that matter). I still use the ASP4 engine with the SF clouds, but I'm very close to switching full time to SF.

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6 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said:

I agree. The SF weather engine still needs a few more tweaks and options, but its cloud formations are superior to anything in either P3d4 (or XP11 for that matter). I still use the ASP4 engine with the SF clouds, but I'm very close to switching full time to SF.

 

That's interesting Jay. I've not tried there WX with the updates it sounds like it's come on a long way from release.

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There's another update in the works for SF. They still have a ways to go to match ASP4, but I think REX has the capability to do that and then some. 

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It's a matter of personal taste but I also prefer SF clouds over ASCA ones. I don't like the looks of ASCA clouds. Take note this may have nothing to do with realism. 😉

I do use AS for weather though: I don't think the SF weather engine will ever get close. 

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SF also has a much more intuitive interface IMO. The Active Sky interface and especially its map is tired and dated looking. There's some validity to the axiom, "Dont mess with success.", but it seems to me that HiFi has been resting on its laurels with its flagship product. 

I don't think that  it will take very long for REX to catch up with SF. Remember, OPUS was once king of the weather heap but that now seems like decades ago. The FS weather add-on field is both crowded and competitive. 

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26 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said:

I don't think that  it will take very long for REX to catch up with SF. Remember, OPUS was once king of the weather heap but that now seems like decades ago. The FS weather add-on field is both crowded and competitive. 

I don't think the SF weather engine will ever come close to AS because REX isn't planning on doing that. 😉 They are working on (yet) another addon to beat AS. SF is more or less the equivalent of ASCA. 

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If that's was the logic behind your previous post, that makes more sense. It's unclear to me what the various vaporware REX products will really do though. One can get vertigo just from reading the descriptions.

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That was the logic indeed. 😉 Yes, you have to read through a lot of marketing yada yada to figure out what their products actually do (or should do). 

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2 questions regarding SF3D -

ASCA transforms textures on the fly based on the real weather , is SF3D capeable of doing this as well? Even if I will be using Active sky as the weather engine?

I have REX SC + texture direct - is SF3D a complete reaplacement or do these 2 work together? I am referring specifically to the sky & cloud textures obviously.

 

Thanks!

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4 hours ago, J van E said:

SF is more or less the equivalent of ASCA. 

Negative! REX Skyforce has it own weather engine and doesn't switch clouds, structures, & sky textures dynamically.

ASCA has different modes of operation and has no weather engine. But you knew this already. 😀

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Sky Force with Active Sky I believe is the best option at this time. That will give you the best of textures and the best of weather injection. The weather engine within Sky Force is not up to par with the abilities of Active Sky but with Weather Force on the way in an update, that could change things. Also not to mention Environment Force in development which showed off some impressive features.

It would be smart to purchase Sky Force now while its on sale. Lets say you don't like it, at 50% off it's a low risk. BUT, if you do like it, you're only future proofing yourself with all the updates in the works for Sky Force.

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21 minutes ago, PWJT8D said:

Sky Force with Active Sky I believe is the best option at this time. That will give you the best of textures and the best of weather injection. The weather engine within Sky Force is not up to par with the abilities of Active Sky but with Weather Force on the way in an update, that could change things. Also not to mention Environment Force in development which showed off some impressive features.

It would be smart to purchase Sky Force now while its on sale. Lets say you don't like it, at 50% off it's a low risk. BUT, if you do like it, you're only future proofing yourself with all the updates in the works for Sky Force.

This was pretty much my logic.  Just picked it up and shall be installing shortly!

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15 minutes ago, PWJT8D said:

It would be smart to purchase Sky Force now while its on sale. Lets say you don't like it, at 50% off it's a low risk. BUT, if you do like it, you're only future proofing yourself with all the updates in the works for Sky Force.

Yup...I would not hesitate to get it especially if it is on sale.  As others have said, SF3D along with ActiveSky is the combo to have at the moment (I have used ASCA extensively in the past).  REX also have some cool things coming up for SF3D in the probably not too distant future...

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I also took the plunge and bought REX skyforce because you can't beat that low price. The most important feature for me is to see the weather and clouds changing as I fly. Reading some of these posts saying that skyforce does not change anything on the fly is confusing me. I see that there is an option for clouds that will change as you fly so isn't that what I was looking for. I have ASCA and AS that I use for weather but I also read that the weather engine for REX is not that bad after all. I really don't care about the technical aspects of the weather so I just want to see rain where it's supposed to rain and sun where it's sunny.  I also see that there is a 10 day weather generator thingy which I think means that each day you play P3D there will be random clouds generated so you don't have the same clouds each day. I think that's also something that will achieve what I want. I did not read the manual fully through yet so it may not be what I think. 

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14 hours ago, Nyxx said:

 

I loved REX Soft clouds. I used AS & ASCA but preferred Solf clouds.

Now I used SF I use it with AS-ASCA with ENVTEX for sky colour only. I've never seen cloud formations as I do with SF and the clouds are like Soft clouds. Its all about the formations SF brings. Turn off there WX. 

Some people prefer AS with ASCA but personly I find the look harsh and when you have used Soft clouds I want that soft cloud look. SF brings all that and formations that really make all the difference. Also overcast for me looks amazing with no FPS hit and when you're under full overcast the clouds can be all dark and foreboding until you fly through and break out and then you have a full overcast under you, wonderful.

 

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8 hours ago, DJJose said:

Negative! REX Skyforce has it own weather engine and doesn't switch clouds, structures, & sky textures dynamically.

ASCA has different modes of operation and has no weather engine. But you knew this already. 😀

Jose, 

You're incorrect. SF does in fact dynamically change out the 3D cloud models on-the-fly.

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1 hour ago, timest said:

Jose, 

You're incorrect. SF does in fact dynamically change out the 3D cloud models on-the-fly.

I'm looking forward to the next hot fix that address' the CTD due to cloud sync.

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52 minutes ago, mdreyer said:

I'm looking forward to the next hot fix that address' the CTD due to cloud sync.

To be fair this has affected a handful of users/systems, and we're still trying to recreate the issue in-house as well as with our beta team. We've had a bit of success with a couple members via our insider program. We'll definitely fix it in the next update though.

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Does SkyForce need to be running if I am using ActiveSky for weather generation?

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Yes it needs to be open and then stick it in your tray

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58 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

Does SkyForce need to be running if I am using ActiveSky for weather generation?

Only if you want cloud STRUCTURES to be changed dynamically. I have to say I never have SF running in the background and my skies look just as good. I never noticed any change of structures anyway and rather save on resources while running P3D. All installed structures and textures are used anyway, regardless if you have SF running in the background or not.

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4 hours ago, timest said:

Jose, 

You're incorrect. SF does in fact dynamically change out the 3D cloud models on-the-fly.

Thanks for clarifying. I thought that after initial install of cloud & sky textures that while in the sim Skyforce did its magic by creating the weather representation without switching textures on the fly. I was only pointing out the difference between ASCA & Skyforce.

It's actually not even a fair comparison because ASCA is an addon to AS a not a stand alone program.

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1 hour ago, J van E said:

Only if you want cloud STRUCTURES to be changed dynamically. I have to say I never have SF running in the background and my skies look just as good. I never noticed any change of structures anyway and rather save on resources while running P3D. All installed structures and textures are used anyway, regardless if you have SF running in the background or not.

If SF is not running & nothing is changing, then you basically have an addon that does the exact same thing as REX TD.

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