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>RBV J230 SAAME J6 HVQ J78 FAM J98 SGF LBL J134 CIM J96 DRK>J231 TNP SEAVU1 Something very important is missing from>this real world flight plan of a B762 which needs to be added>to the Level-D B767 FMS before the flight plan is complete ->what happens after reaching the final intersection - which Rwy>24 or Rwy 25 approach will be used?I'm confused by this one paragraph. You can enter the final runway that will be used and it even calculates for the chinesse glideslope to be used.

>The FS Approach system is written for the default GPS.>>FS needs a flight plan which follows the approaches it has in>it's database.>>You can add waypoints to any FS flight plan from an external>source, including a text editor. FSBuild and FSNav both can do>that.>>If your PMDG 744 can export it's flight plan to a FS2004>flight plan file - then you load that flight plan file.>>You will have ATC from the FS2004 flight plan and aircraft>flight control from the PMDG FMS.I remember you bringing this up many years ago and I've always followed your standard and was able to use the charts and plates to fly a perfect approach. No more 'vectors' for me!

Reggie you da man!!!O.k. let's get to the fallacy that's been reported time and again on these forums. Someone (maybe Aces I don't know) says it's too hard to put SID/STARS in the default ATC program. Low and behold STARS are already there... :-eek Why then may I ask is it so hard for Aces to better implement something that they already put in the engine anyway??? Everything is there you just can't access it by normal means so products like PMDG's 744 can better take advantage of it...I know people are sick of me ranting but this is the kind of stuff that leads one to ask, "Do they think we're stupid or what???". I mean this is ridicules (but at least we got better graphics)...

:-wave :-lol Chris calm down... Like you told me, Aces isn't going to do anything so why bother...Well now we all see there's much that can be done. Will the opportunity be given to developers to better expand on this, that's yet to be seen. The foundation is there. I had no idea the default GPS had STARS information programmed into it... What's even better is the ability to use external Flight Planner information.What get's me is I'm pretty informed (if not I know a whole lot of people who are) and this one totally missed me. Was there some documentation that I didn't read carefully??? It's always been said there's allot to the default GPS, now I see what they were talking about. Sadly the only add-ons that'll benefit from this are 'lite' products like CLS's Airbus series. None complex birds use the default GPS where as you

First, Jim Vile is the one who taught me to use the GPS and learn how the FS system can work.I've got two long posts a couple pages down in more detail.I don't want to see SID/STAR procedures implemented for AI aircraft.Let me change that - I want some type of intelligent departure process for AI aircraft - either a preferred departure route we could program in with XML or terrain awareness. For 90% of the world's airports - no issue - though some of the "noise abatment" folks in Europe would love to have customizable departure routes.But for full STARs for arriving aircraft - the AI aircraft would have to be extended out to as much as 350 nm from the airport - a huge increase in the amount of AI aircraft active in the system.We can extend the existing approach structure out to the STAR end points in many cases. We also need ACES to fix the VMC/IMC problem.AI aircraft fly smart approaches in IMC and dumb ones in VMC.We need ACES to fix the descent to approach altitude when crossing the runway centerline in VMC or when on an extended separation waypoint.We need ACES to add some mechanism to control separation, either with turns, placing similar type aircraft on the same runway, and load balancing arrivals on open runways.For the USER aircraft however, the Flight Planner needs to be smarter. The waypoints are there - but they are not named. The Flight Planner does not choose them.Since they have no names - the ATC cannot mention them by name.No I'm certainly not letting ACES off the hook - but there is a lot of capability we haven't discovered yet.I'd like to see them concentrate on a few achievable things rather than trying to rewrite the entire system.

"I'd like to see them concentrate on a few achievable things rather than trying to rewrite the entire system."I agree. I'll even go as far as to say I could care less what AI Aircraft do as long as more options exist for the user and his aircraft (long distance low approaches and mountain hazards would be a thing of the past). I don't think anyone here would want the whole code rewritten anyway and we all know that's impossible for FSX. There's more than enough already to be expanded upon. Like I said all Aces has to do is open up and give developers more tools and info on this area of the sim.Chris maybe right though seeing how short sighted Aces has been on this subject over past 3+ years, they may hardball it and keep us on FS9 technology until the next version of Flight Simulator rolls out for XBOX...

"until the next version of Flight Simulator rolls out for XBOX...":-lolWe can't predict the future but it sure looks like the franchise is heading that way with the pretty graphics and all...

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>I know people are sick of me ranting but this is the kind of>stuff that leads one to ask, "Do they think we're stupid or>what???". I mean this is ridicules (but at least we got>better graphics)...Perhaps not "stupid," but there are certainly a number of people here (and elsewhere) who seem to feel that talking from the part of their anatomy that never sees sunshine is a virtue... :-lol ACES will be delivering a totally new method of communicating with FSX known as "SimConnect." This will allow third-parties access to the sim's core engine in a manner that could only be dreamed of previously!Please allow time for the devs to complete their work, and then enough time for all third-party devs to wrap their brains and imaginations around this incredibly useful new concept in access...Trust me, by doing so one will avoid completely the "egg-on-my-face" syndrome...

Bill, good post but not sure how many are listening. ;)Michael J.

>>ACES will be delivering a totally new method of communicating>with FSX known as "SimConnect." This will allow third-parties>access to the sim's core engine in a manner that could only be>dreamed of previously!>>Please allow time for the devs to complete their work, and>then enough time for all third-party devs to wrap their brains>and imaginations around this incredibly useful new concept in>access...>>Trust me, by doing so one will avoid completely the>"egg-on-my-face" syndrome...Thanks Bill. Very encouraging.Manny

haha :(and let me guess... the microsoft love-fest people will be after you in a heartbeat for this one :(

>Bill, good post but not sure how many are listening. ;)>>Michael J.Well, certain not the "where did all this egg on my face come from" folks, that's for sure. I'm astonished by some of the truly inane things some folks write... I reckon some folks just enjoy looking like the southbound end of a northbound mule... :-xxrotflmao

Be careful Bill you don't look like the "southbound end of a northbound mule..."New features don't necessarily mean they'll be widely accepted and unitized over other features. I'm astonished you of all people wouldn't want to see better tools for the default ATC system. I'm surprised you