John_Cillis

11.30RC1 Performance

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I participated in the beta and saw a big hit on fps on my system, which ain't the fastest.  But I read up on RC1 being released and as I do not quit, I loaded it up.  I am astounded at the performance improvement, it is even better than 11.26 was.  I do not know what Laminar did but it is like they did an X2 boost to the performance of the sim, panning is much smoother in my most complicated scenery and aircraft, for instance.  I just wanted to get the message out, go for the release candidate, so far it is a winner!  And even an old simmer can still be surprised as he approaches the big 60...

John

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16 minutes ago, Cactus521 said:

I am astounded at the performance improvement

I too am impressed with RC1 although it is slightly slower than b7 on my system.  It is flying just fine for this 75+ year old flyer.  I see so many that are comparing it with earlier versions, but are flying third party aircraft and using scenery probably not modified by the developers.  It is not fair until you fly plain Jane releases with default aircraft.  I do not use VR as I would probably fall out my chair and break something I cannot replace.  Having flown since the first simulators, it is amazing what has evolved.   My system is an I7-4770 (no K) with 16GB DDRAM, and a GTX 1070 card.  Nothing special, but I can run 65+ FPS with most environments.  I am looking forward to VULCAN but don't really expect a great improvement until lots of things come online to make use of its capabilities.  I see nothing but good and expect to see more as this group of guys work their magic.

John  (Yep - another one)

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42 minutes ago, Old_As_Dirt said:

I do not use VR as I would probably fall out my chair and break something I cannot replace. 

Hahaha! I almost fell off my chair when I read your post, very good one John!

Joke appart when XP reach RC status always performance return to normal at least this is what I saw since a lot of betas before.

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I don't usually do betas, so was disappointed and worried about FPS performance in the various versions so far.  Good to know this is a pattern and the RC candidates have improved things.  I'll update and check it out.  

 

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I am on the fence but not sure whether to update or not (currently on 11.26) due to the addons I use. How about compatibility?

Does 11.30RC1 work with

- Flight Factor 757 v2

- Toliss A319

- Carenado PC12

- XPRealistic Pro ?

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New to X Plane -have full on FSX and P3Dv4 setups

Enjoying this new OS

These constant system upgrades make life very “exciting “!

I find however it is my Scenery Addons that get glitches-Propstrike fixed one for me at Quatam River after an update  -or else the Addon airstrip will not install

Planes seem to remain unscathed 

I suppose it is all  part and parcel of a fast  moving developing Sim

Enough keeps working to keep me interested plus access to some new planes and airstrips is fun 

xxd09

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4 hours ago, Jude Bradley said:

The cockpit lighting is broken in rc1 

 

That explains the smoother operation! Seriously, please stay on topic.
I also experience much better performance in rural setting, I sustain now easily 40 to 50 FPS, but not so much in highly urbanized settings, unfortunately. I still get around or slightly under the magic 20 FPS in cities.
It is much better with ortho and xEurope then with default autogen, so I am happy.
I guess compromises still need to be made, unless I get an unexpected funding and go flat out on new hardware.

My expectation was that Vulcan could improve this, but after reading the blog entries from Ben, I am not so sure anymore. It appears we have more gains now by cleaning up and preparing the code for Vulcan, then we will have with the new api itself.

And any improvement to the engine is welcome, of course.

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8 hours ago, Cargostorm said:

I am on the fence but not sure whether to update or not (currently on 11.26) due to the addons I use. How about compatibility?

Does 11.30RC1 work with

- Flight Factor 757 v2

- Toliss A319

- Carenado PC12

- XPRealistic Pro ?

I don't have the other add-ons, but the Carenado PC-12 works fine in rc1.

Or rather, as fine as it did in the non-beta version, where there are still some buglets like a clicking noise that Carenado has fixed internally, but not released yet. They've been waiting for 11.30 to go final before updating the model with that and other fixes. I'm hoping the list includes the wacky ground behavior with prop reverse, which is an old bug.

7 hours ago, Jude Bradley said:

The cockpit lighting is broken in rc1 

Cockpit lighting works fine on the Carenado PC-12 in rc1 (just tested it). This may be an individual model issue.

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Quite a lot of Freeware Addon airstrips out of X Plane forum/Downloads do not install-others do -why this is the case is not immediately obvious to me

xxd09

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1 hour ago, Paraffin said:

Cockpit lighting works fine on the Carenado PC-12 in rc1 (just tested it). This may be an individual model issue.

 

Not working in Zibo 737.

Not working in FF 767

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/165274-1130-rc1-b737-cabin-dashboard-lights-non-functional-at-night-vr-mode/

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Sorry to ask: will there be a stable version 11.30r1 or is RC1 supposed to be the stable version? No cockpit lighting in certain aircrafts is a no-go.

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I usually like to do an objective comparison between 2 versions of a flight sim before pronouncing the update better than the previous version but in this case I'm willing to say that on my system there is an obvious performance improvement!

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1 hour ago, Murmur said:

Steam sales going up month after month. It's funny seeing the pain of some p3d fun-boys here. 😁

But.... But......

 

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6 hours ago, pracines said:

11.30 is just another release that adds a few things and breaks a few things.🙄

I see no improvement in FPS; I have about 25 FPS at the same place with the same settings, just like since version 11.0. 

Where is ATC for VFR for example? - yet all this hype about ATC. Too small a team to do develop this fundamental, essential, and elementary necessity in aviation, but they can dive deep into PBR like AAA games do. 😖

I see more about items that have been fixed, or complicated "thrust vectors" ( which is a version #1 kind of feature - aerodynamics uh flight sim uh duh), and being able to take pretty screenshots, than anything truly useful in a flight simulator. It is NOT good when basic aerodynamics are still being fixed in version 11.3 - yet all this talk about being the best aerodynamically way back in version 8 days. 🤢🤮

I wish flight simmers would truly step back and look at this XP11 project with a clear heart and open eyes. Maybe we would finally start moving forward with some real innovation and features that matter in a flight simulator. Yes there are some good features in XP, but not enough at this stage and at this level.

WOW...auto toe brakes... really?? a prominent feature for VERSION 11.3???😖

The only kind of good thing is the 3D airport list grew some more...but it HAS too, because there is a LOT of catching up to do.

I am totally deaf to any defense of this project, so don't bother...but do join me, so this project (that has been around since 1994!) can one day be worth defending.🙂

Can you do a better job ?

and what is better than ? 

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Maybe we all should just stop feeding the troll and get back on topic...

I‘m still on 11.26 but given all the positive comments, I‘m inclined to give 11.30r1 a try. By the way: Thanks to all who are brave enough to give the betas a try and report their findings here. 

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30 minutes ago, carlito777 said:

Maybe we all should just stop feeding the troll and get back on topic...

I‘m still on 11.26 but given all the positive comments, I‘m inclined to give 11.30r1 a try. By the way: Thanks to all who are brave enough to give the betas a try and report their findings here. 

I went the cowards route and use 11.26 from an SSD, while testing the beta on a large regular drive.......

And of course P3D has its own SSD.... as does Aerofly. (I like variety)

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On 12/16/2018 at 11:10 PM, John_Cillis said:

I am astounded at the performance improvement, it is even better than 11.26 was .....

Interesting, I get an approx 10 fps drop with 11.30 rc1 compared with 11.26 using exactly the same settings.  It's been the same for all the 11.30 betas as well.

Tested using the default C172 at default EGHI runway 02 with clear weather.  11.26 gives approx 60 fps and 11.30 rc1 approx 50 fps.

I do however much prefer the ground handling in 11.30.

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Overall lower FPS for me as well. With weird shadow LOD issues.

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