August 15, 200619 yr That's right, all the pirates and software crackers won't need to activate their illegitimate copy but we the ones who paid for it will have this hassle everytime we upgrade something or have to shell out more money to put it on our laptop. Go figure.Regards, Carlos
August 15, 200619 yr I love Flight Simulator. Always have. There's no other franchise of entertainment software out there that has been this much of a love for me over the years. No matter what game I play when they come out, I'll always grow tired of it within a few months, but Flight Simulator is like the gift that keeps on giving. Sometimes I'll take a bit of a sabbatical from it, but I always come back to it after a time. Meanwhile, the various incarnations of Quake, Doom, Command & Conquer, etc. sit and collect dust, or are eventually passed on to someone else as a gift.The point? I will gladly spend the money for Flight Simulator. Every time. I will be buying the deluxe edition, although perhaps after a couple of weeks so I can guage the response of the community. But, for what little good it'll do, I have to protest phone-home activation. Use it on an OS. Use it on a high end graphics program (Photoshop comes to mind), but for a game? I think it's a little overboard. Sadly, it will be pirated. THEY ALWAYS ARE. As has already been stated, it's the honest users that will suffer.I am relieved that it can be done over the internet, though. It's better than calling someone in India or wherever and having to plea my case for why I'm reinstalling for the 50th time. "No matter how eloquent you are or how solidly and firm you've built your case, you will never win in an argument with an idiot, for he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous.
August 15, 200619 yr Moderator Just gotta love your restraint!VicVisit the Virtual Pilot's Centerwww.flightadventures.comhttp://www.hifisim.com/Active Sky V6 Proud SupporterRadar Contact Supporter: http://www.jdtllc.com/ RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
August 15, 200619 yr >Uh, no, but have a nice day anyway. ;)>Tdragger,Whats going on here, why don't you stop this speculation on activation, phone calls etc, and put all the speculators minds at rest?Are you laughing sadisticly at this thread? Come on, give us the truth? Dave Taylor
August 15, 200619 yr Author >I love Flight Simulator. Always have. There's no other>franchise of entertainment software out there that has been>this much of a love for me over the years. No matter what game>I play when they come out, I'll always grow tired of it within>a few months, but Flight Simulator is like the gift that keeps>on giving. Sometimes I'll take a bit of a sabbatical from it,>but I always come back to it after a time. Meanwhile, the>various incarnations of Quake, Doom, Command & Conquer, etc.>sit and collect dust, or are eventually passed on to someone>else as a gift.>>The point? I will gladly spend the money for Flight Simulator.>Every time. I will be buying the deluxe edition, although>perhaps after a couple of weeks so I can guage the response of>the community. But, for what little good it'll do, I have to>protest phone-home activation. Use it on an OS. Use it on a>high end graphics program (Photoshop comes to mind), but for a>game? I think it's a little overboard. Sadly, it will be>pirated. THEY ALWAYS ARE. As has already been stated, it's the>honest users that will suffer.>>I am relieved that it can be done over the internet, though.>It's better than calling someone in India or wherever and>having to plea my case for why I'm reinstalling for the 50th>time.>Exactly what is your problem with India?
August 15, 200619 yr Author >>Uh, no, but have a nice day anyway. ;)>>>>Tdragger,>>Whats going on here, why don't you stop this speculation on>activation, phone calls etc, and put all the speculators minds>at rest?>>Are you laughing sadisticly at this thread? Come on, give us>the truth?>While sitting on a throne of solid gold and wearing a suit made out of all of your hard-earned dollars, right?Does it ever get boring to constantly rip on ACES? Have you guys ever considered maybe that's why they don't include the stuff you guys want in the game?
August 15, 200619 yr Moderator > I'm 100% for it. I assume you have thought about those people>who might not have an internet connection? Perhaps an>activation by telephone?The answer to your question is an unqualified yes. Didn't you read message #1 in this thread? ;) Fr. Bill AOPA Member: 07141481 AARP Member: 3209010556 Avsim Board of Directors | Avsim Forums Moderator
August 15, 200619 yr Hi,He has made it very clear, if you haven't figured it out already.1. There will be activation, via the internet.2. If you aren't connected, you can do it by phone.3. You will not need the DVD in the drive when running the sim.Hope this helps,--Tom GibsonCal Classic Propliner Page: http://www.calclassic.comFreeflight Design Shop: http://www.freeflightdesign.comDrop by! ___x_x_(")_x_x___ Tom Gibson CalClassic Propliner Page
August 15, 200619 yr Hmm, how about they just load FSX with a 100 undercover anti-piracy methods, like home call, non-legit lockout, cracked product lockout etc. That should make the crackers spend more time cracking it; but on the contrary- ACES would have to spend more time implementing these measures.
August 15, 200619 yr Just a guess, but I'd say accents. Dealing with customer support can be a lot harder if you and the CS rep can't understand eachother. I recently delt with another company's customer service, and while I think the people I talked to were in the US, their accents (Korean?) made it really tough to understand what they were saying. I personally don't have a problem with any other countries or their people, but I'd rather have CS reps who didn't take English as a second language. :) (Of course, I'd also like the CS people to be people who actually understand what the product(s) are and to have a good understanding of how they work rather then be reading off a list of the 50 most common problems and fixes, in otherwords the techs themselves. But I expect that's a vain hope for the most part.) Can't say I've delt much with Microsoft's CS though."Let me help you out. You're cleared to taxi any way you can to any runway you see."
August 15, 200619 yr My current FS9 Instllation habit.I have installed FS9 in 3 PCs and 1 Laptop.. Actually 4 laptops.. one after the other.. Since my Laptop gets recycled almost every year at work.BTW.. all of them are used only by me... The main PC... I have reinstalled FS9 over and over probably... about 5 times. 3 times on my current main PC and twice on my old PC when that was my prime PC.I wonder..how the new activiation thingi would accomodate this.Hmmm....Manny Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
August 15, 200619 yr >My current FS9 Instllation habit.>>I have installed FS9 in 3 PCs and 1 Laptop.. Actually 4>laptops.. one after the other.. Since my Laptop gets recycled>almost every year at work.>>BTW.. all of them are used only by me... >that's great. Now, when FSX gets the DX10 codepath patch, how many copies of Vista are you going to buy? Copies of FSX are in the noise level at that point.scott s..
August 15, 200619 yr >Exactly what is your problem with India?Well, even though it's off topic, I'll bite. Firstly I have no problem with India personally. I have a problem with outsourcing, which I could talk for days on. I also don't like to spend 50% of the conversation saying "I'm sorry, could you say that again, please? I can't understand you through your accent." when I'm dealing with a company supposedly based out of, for instance, Omaha (one of my credit card companies in particular).EDIT: EdrickV: Bingo. "No matter how eloquent you are or how solidly and firm you've built your case, you will never win in an argument with an idiot, for he is too stupid to recognize his own defeat." ~Anonymous.
August 15, 200619 yr Author >>Exactly what is your problem with India?>>Well, even though it's off topic, I'll bite. Firstly I have no>problem with India personally. I have a problem with>outsourcing, which I could talk for days on. I also don't like>to spend 50% of the conversation saying "I'm sorry, could you>say that again, please? I can't understand you through your>accent." when I'm dealing with a company supposedly based out>of, for instance, Omaha (one of my credit card companies in>particular).>>EDIT: EdrickV: Bingo.>>I thought it was an odd commment either way. The accent, sure, it takes some getting used to. But without the explanation, it seemed that there was some sort of insinuation that perhaps someone in India couldn't handle your problem. Of course, I read that after sitting down with the three system administrators in my department who are here on work visas, and seriously combine to be the best Unix administration team I have ever had the pleasure to work with. So, as I said, the comment just seemed odd. If you have the time, since you seem to run into it often through your credit card company, I would suggest immersing yourself in India's culture some. It would smooth the proceeding somewhat in your phone support dealings, and it really is the most diverse and vibrant cultures I've ever come in contact with.
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