I’d bet my house this will have volumetric clouds. In a world where games that have no flying in them have volumetric, dynamic clouds, there’s no chance this won’t. 

6 hours ago, Greazer said:

The video is not conclusive proof of volumetric clouds.  Until we hear from MS and or getter better video nobody actually knows. In fact if I was betting on this I would say those are not volumetric clouds, and look closer to the 2d billboard ones we have in p3d and XP.

It's conclusive. Anyone that has played FSW knows TruSky when they see it.

 

Edited July 12, 20196 yr by bonchie

20 hours ago, bonchie said:

It's conclusive. Anyone that has played FSW knows TruSky when they see it.

I would say that it's possible but definitely not conclusive. There are plenty of good volumetric cloud simulations about - here are just a few:

https://youtu.be/8Aeyafaz7Jo

https://youtu.be/v4cu349VTlw

https://youtu.be/yNiCl6h6icc

https://youtu.be/rkSBIx_rZjc

On 7/11/2019 at 2:15 AM, Greazer said:

There's no actual proof the clouds are 3d. Everybody waiting on more info or video. Please don't post false information. As for XP, don't worry it will always have proper flight models, physics and realism. The graphics engine is getting upgraded. The Vulkan is landing.

This is not true - towards the end of the video a plane travels through two clouds where are clearly volumentric. Also the clouds absorb light which is evidenced in several scenes - if you look closely the shadows on the clouds appear to accurately reflect the position of the sun. There is quite a bit of evidence to support the fact these clouds are not 2D but that doesn't of course rule out 2D clouds completely in MSFS 2020.

On 7/12/2019 at 12:05 AM, Greazer said:

I will get it for a 2nd side sim, if they tick all the boxes in the other thread (key things MS has to do). But I half expect they will cut corners and not fully deliver i.e. with 2d clouds. I hope I am wrong and it gives XP a real run for the money.

Well you are right to be apprehensive - there arn't too many sims with volumentic clouds, especially showing the details the way the trailer has them. I think it's the most impressive aspect of the trailer and seeing how this will be delivered will go a long way to the community 'trusting' Microsoft to deliver a next iteration of Microsoft Flight Simulator. If they have to go back to 2D clouds then that would kill the momentum they have achieved from the trailer so it will be interesting to see develops going forward. My view is that they have 3D clouds but it will cost you in terms of performance.

4 hours ago, vortex681 said:

I would say that it's possible but definitely not conclusive. There are plenty of good volumetric cloud simulations about - here are just a few:

https://youtu.be/8Aeyafaz7Jo

https://youtu.be/v4cu349VTlw

https://youtu.be/yNiCl6h6icc

https://youtu.be/rkSBIx_rZjc

Well I already have volumetric clouds in flight sim (XP) with xEnviro. It's not perfect but in time there is big potential. It's one of the top ten Key things MS Must do.   

2 hours ago, Greazer said:

Well I already have volumetric clouds in flight sim (XP) with xEnviro. It's not perfect but in time there is big potential. It's one of the top ten Key things MS Must do.   

You honnestly can't compare XEnviro with the trailer (no grain, multiple cloud layers...)

XEnviro + grain: 10fps on my computer

FSW+Trusky: 40fps on my computer

The big potential you are talking about is that with time (years from now), we will have more and more powerful hardware and XEnviro will begin playable...

3 hours ago, Noooch said:

You honnestly can't compare XEnviro with the trailer (no grain, multiple cloud layers...)

XEnviro + grain: 10fps on my computer

FSW+Trusky: 40fps on my computer

The big potential you are talking about is that with time (years from now), we will have more and more powerful hardware and XEnviro will begin playable...

I think there is some grain on the trailer (lighting strike scene). But years away from what we got now 

Edited July 13, 20196 yr by aleex

4 minutes ago, aleex said:

I think there is some grain on the trailer (lighting strike scene). But years away from what we got now 

I agree,some grain too at 1:00 where the sky is pink.

Also did you notice the big circular waves at 1:07 around Al Catraz? (visible in full screen only)

Edited July 13, 20196 yr by Noooch

4 hours ago, Noooch said:

I agree,some grain too at 1:00 where the sky is pink.

Also did you notice the big circular waves at 1:07 around Al Catraz? (visible in full screen only)

em, yep, just notice it. But them move with the aircraft movement... maybe some compression issue? So weird...

It’s not Alcatraz 

27 minutes ago, Superdelphinus said:

It’s not Alcatraz

Yes it is but anyway, that's not what is important here

4 minutes ago, Noooch said:

Yes it is but anyway, that's not what is important here

Well, everything matters.

So no, it's not Alcatraz. It's still in front of Marseille. 🙂

You can check on Google Earth and you'll find the 3d version of it.

@france89 If you read what I said carefully, I was talking about 1:07 in the trailer, so yes, it is Alcatraz.

The castle in front of Marseille is called Chateau d'If and it's very famous. I don't need to go to Google Earth to see the 3D version, I have been to Marseille several times, thank you.

Edited July 13, 20196 yr by Noooch

2 hours ago, france89 said:

Well, everything matters.

So no, it's not Alcatraz. It's still in front of Marseille. 🙂

You can check on Google Earth and you'll find the 3d version of it.

It's the scene of the golden gate... I don't think Marseille has that kind of bridge on its coast