Hey Guys.  Really enjoying my new rig.  Spent years on a 2600k rig.  Admittedly, I am not really fully utilizing the capability of this new computer as the majority of my simming is FS9.  This is for a multitude of factors.  Mainly, I already have all the add-ons I want configured the way I want them.  Most of the FS9 flying I do is VATSIM airliner flights around the US.  With Microsoft's new sim coming soon, I don't see a huge push to dive into P3D right now.  Maybe the new MS sim will be a dud, and I will go P3d eventually.  I also really enjoy Aerofly FS 2 for screw around VFR type flights.  

Anyway.  Right now I have a limited overclock by definition only.  Otherwise stock.  I am running the 9700k on a Asus Maximus XI Hero with only ram XMP 1 and I do have MCE turned on.  So running 4.6ghz basically with the VCORE somewhere around 1.2V.  (.98 min and 1.225V max).  Would there be any performance worth getting OC'ing to 5G? This would only really be a 10% overclock.  Not to mention I'm only running FS9.  No matter what I do, I'd still like to have the CPU relax a bit when not in use and automatically downclock.  Looking forward to the thoughts of the experts on here.  

no opinions guys?

19 minutes ago, micstatic said:

no opinions guys?

Hi...

As a fellow FS9 diehard - I made the jump from FS9 straight to P3Dv3 - skipping FSX entirely... When I started with P3D - I kept FS9 installed for more than a year fully intending to go back and fly some of my beloved addons that I didn't want to lose - - - the thing is there is absolutely no going back - I didn't use it a single time - I couldn't use it - finally deleting it - - - P3D is so MASSIVELY better... Granted - to get all your addons up to speed will probably cost a grand or more (wait for holiday sales) - but once dialed in - at times I still chuckle to myself on how realistic it looks and behaves... Just my two cents...

I run Gigabyte mobos - they have canned overclocks - that is set by picking a single setting in the bios so it's easy to try. I believe the CPU only hits the high clock speeds while under load - so it's all about managing temps... If you have a good cooler - give it a try... I ran my 2700K @ 4.7Ghz in the low 80's C - for years without any negative effects. The cooling is better on my 7700K as I did the delid and I haven't surpassed 65C at 5Ghz...

Regards,
Scott

Edited August 1, 20196 yr by scottb613

thanks for the reply.  At this point I don't want to commit to jumping into P3D if it too is going to become obsolete  Obviously we don't know yet until the new MS one comes out.  But I don't see the harm waiting.  

FS9 is going to give you a relatively linear return with respect to frame rate as a function of CPU speed.  Since FS9 runs pretty much on just the one core, overclock it if you want higher frame rates than you get now.

That said, you should be seeing higher than 4.6GHz with FS9 running, even at stock settings...the single-core turbo boost on the 9700K is 4.9GHz, and two-core boost is 4.8.  You should be able to easily hold 4.9Ghz running FS9 (assuming you don't run a bunch of other CPU-intensive programs at the same time)...it might take an override in the BIOS (e.g. set CPU Core Ratios to "Per Core" and set the 1/2/3/4-core ratio limits to 49) to keep the speed from downshifting for the occasional workload bumps from background services and such, but one core running near 100% on a 9700K at 4.9 with minor sporadic bumps on the other cores isn't going to challenge a 240mm AIO.  Now if you're running other programs that hit the CPU concurrent with that...different story.  Then a little more work will be needed to keep it holding 4.9-5.0 with more cores carrying a significant load.

Regards

Would such a change also require voltage tweaks?  Right now FS9 would be the only program running the CPU hard, but only seeing boost to 4.6 on all cores.  

No voltage tweaks here anyway.

MB is Asrock Z390 Taichi , ram 16gb and video is 2080ti

Just increased the multiplier to 48 then 49, that<s it. Checked the temp in FSimulators: fsx, xp11, p3dv35 and 4.5 and cpu temp averages 65c.

One of the easiest overclock I ever owned.

Note: the case is well ventilated and using Corsair 115pro for water cooling.

Cheers

Thanks.  I also have a 240mm cooler.  4 fans on it.  Very well ventilated.  Temps are not a concern at all.  I was more looking at longevity of the CPU.  IE, if it would degrade only for a barely noticeable OC.  

In my opinion, if you are running FS9 I see no need to overclock an additional .xx ghz.  Sure it will gain you a bit, but if you're already getting fantastic frame rate in FS9, what difference will it make to get a bit more?

FS9 -- you could run Tom Gibson's Classic Airliner sceneries.  One big pro of that sim still today.

On 8/1/2019 at 7:13 AM, micstatic said:

thanks for the reply.  At this point I don't want to commit to jumping into P3D if it too is going to become obsolete  Obviously we don't know yet until the new MS one comes out.  But I don't see the harm waiting.  

"I don't want to commit to using something that may become obsolete, so I'll just use this obsolete sim for another few years"

🤣

People are hilarious.

4 hours ago, TechguyMaxC said:

"I don't want to commit to using something that may become obsolete, so I'll just use this obsolete sim for another few years"

🤣

People are hilarious.

Lol... 

seriously though... OP if you move to P3D there is no reason you can't enjoy the sim for many years to come... I mean you have enjoyed FS9 for so long and P3D is SOOOO much better, just install P3d when you rebuild the new computer. Thank everyone later... Cause you will...

I just want to add a vanilla P3D will run like 60FPS all the time maxed out with the new system, and that will still look far better then FS9 with everything you can throw at it.

Edited August 2, 20196 yr by turboken

Guys.  I've seen the screenshots and youtubes to know you are absolutely correct.  I took about 5 years off from the flight sim hobby.  I now find myself with the nice new capable computer.  I just don't understand why I would start buying P3D and all the ad dons I would absolutely want now when Microsoft's new one is right on the cusp?  I get it.  I missed two generations (FSX and now P3D).  Skipped FSX on purpose.  But (and I know a big but) if the new MS is as good as we hope, you too will all be moving on from P3D.  I say this to solicit responses, not to argue.  I appreciate all your input. 

And computer is built FYI.  On it now.  Just not OC'd

you guys talked me into it.  A few questions.  Just downloaded P3DV4.  I'm getting the ORBX global base pack.  Any other must haves?  Also, I'd like to get some airliners, but not necessarily the super realistic ones where I will have to spend a ton of initial time reading/studying.  Eventually.  But for now any simpler go and fly now recommendations? 

I'm just teasing, but glad to see you're giving P3D a try.  Your new computer will thank you 😉

As for semi-realistic airliners, I think Quality Wings aircraft tend to fit into this bracket most often, give their 787 a try.