5 minutes ago, vortex681 said:

Unless there's some very specific weather conditions you want to experience from the previous summer (and you can remember the exact date and time they happened), why not just use a good weather theme? I hope that with the much more advanced weather engine in the new sim, it will also have much better weather themes which will take full advantage of it.

I think for VFR flying the weather themes are absolutely fine, however, on longer journeys on jets the weather themes generally mean that the weather is the same anywhere. Flying from Northern Europe to the Mediterranean in summer for instance can have some very interesting weather situations, flying from rainy into sunny weather, overflying some thunderstorms and so on. These situations are generally not replicated through static themes - unless MSFS comes up with some much better weather themes as you suggest. 

1 hour ago, bonchie said:

It'd be the same way it's implemented in XP11. You get the weather but no accumulation on the ground. 

Hopefully they come up with a shader based solution prior to launch though. Perhaps as an experimental option at least. 

Based on their statements, I would bet they won't release something experimental on the final release. They said they are setting minimmum standards and anything not good enought won't get into the sim until improved. 

As I've been saying around the topics, people that really seasons have give their feedback about it when they open the feedback system. I'm pretty sure that the most asked features will receive a position of priority in their development roadmap.

3 hours ago, bonchie said:

It'd be the same way it's implemented in XP11. You get the weather but no accumulation on the ground. 

Hopefully they come up with a shader based solution prior to launch though. Perhaps as an experimental option at least. 

So you can fly through a white-out, full blown, winter snowstorm and observe summer ground textures and perfectly green grass and trees right beneath your AC...?

Never mind the accumulation... that in itself would look ridiculous!  Especially after coming from FSX that has had winter textures for the past ten years now!

4 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

So you can fly through a white-out, full blown, winter snowstorm and observe summer ground textures and perfectly green grass and trees right beneath your AC...?

Never mind the accumulation... that in itself would look ridiculous!  Especially after coming from FSX that has had winter textures for the past ten years now!

MSFS isn't using generic textures. It's a whole new set of problems. 

Newsflash seasons is not a priority with Avsim members !!

Thanks to this forum I now hate both VR and seasons and want neither of them to ever be anywhere near this sim, out of pure, boiling, spite. 

4 hours ago, vortex681 said:

Unless there's some very specific weather conditions you want to experience from the previous summer (and you can remember the exact date and time they happened), why not just use a good weather theme?

The way I use historical weather is if I don't want to fly in current conditions but still want a realistically generated weather system that is closer to what I want to fly in that day.  Weather themes don't give me that.

My previous recreation of the Cannibal Queen flight was during the winter and I set the weather to the previous summer so I'd be able to fly in conditions similar to what were in the book.

If I'm looking for specific conditions to fly in, I'll load historical weather going back a few days or a week at a time until I find what I'm looking for.  Sometimes this takes a while.

Having access to historical weather is important to me.

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7 hours ago, snglecoil said:

So, here's my guess. The atmospheric model will be fully capable of producing and rendering all seasonal weather, including snow, ice, rain, hurricanes, sleet, rain shafts, rainbows, etc.The world model/visual representation of the effects of those seasonal changes will not be visible at initial release. There will be a disconnect between what you experience in the sky and what you see on the ground.

Bottom line: Immersion will be shattered. The world will cease to rotate as people's brains struggle to cope with the confusion of snow falling on summer ground scene. Eventually the whole thing implodes into the first commercially available simulation of a black hole...which, let's be honest, won't really be all that spectacular either because...you know...no VR.

 

Or, or, or

You can just kinda deal with it, and enjoy what is there, with the likelihood that seasonal ground representation will eventually make it into the sim.

I posted this in the seasons thread, but I think it also needs to be mentioned whether the ground (friction, etc) will be affected by the weather as well.

To be fair, in the uk the ground often doesn’t look particularly different in the winter than it does in the summer. Or the weather, thinking about it...

3 minutes ago, Superdelphinus said:

To be fair, in the uk the ground often doesn’t look particularly different in the winter than it does in the summer. Or the weather, thinking about it...

Do you live in the south try the Pennines when the M62 is blocked  

On the a 62 near Oldham they have flashing lights on road signs when they flash red you pass at your own risk 

Edited October 3, 20196 yr by rjfry

4 minutes ago, rjfry said:

Do you live in the south try the Pennines when the M62 is blocked  

On the a 62 near Oldham they have flashing lights on road signs when they flash red you pass at your own risk 

South manc

Just now, Superdelphinus said:

South manc

Well you don't see a lot down there north Manchester when I worked in Trafford park driving home up the a62 in winter not a snow flake in Manchester but as soon as you get up around Failsworth the roads start turning white and gets thicker. 

2 hours ago, rjfry said:

Newsflash seasons is not a priority with Avsim members !!

You can exclude me from that 9 inch paint brush. 😂