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My daughter has a dogwalking business. Some of her clients are key workers. Anyway, at least she's out exercising on her own and knows some relatively deserted moorland areas for exercising the dogs.

She texted me earlier to say that two fast jets came screaming by at low level and a couple of the dogs got panicky. I said oh well, you're talking to the wrong person - jet noise is the sound of freedom! :biggrin:

My wife said that's unnecessary travel - the RAF boys swanning about in the nice weather! I said it's military training and bring it on.. I then got "the look", so we agreed to disagree.

Best not to anger the womenfolk in these dark times, especially when you live with them! :ph34r::laugh:

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One thing the current crisis has done is highlight the British sense of humour. Some of the memes and videos are very amusing.

And in other news it seems the royal family have joined the Covid Club. Prince Charles is infected but said to be doing well.

 

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1 hour ago, HighBypass said:

She texted me earlier to say that two fast jets came screaming by at low level and a couple of the dogs got panicky. I said oh well, you're talking to the wrong person - jet noise is the sound of freedom! :biggrin:

My wife said that's unnecessary travel - the RAF boys swanning about in the nice weather! I said it's military training and bring it on.. I then got "the look", so we agreed to disagree.

Back in the day, our squadron ops desk used to get regular phone calls from those 'on high', because some retired chap near Redcar spent his life in the garden, trying to note the number of every military aircraft entering the low flying area, so he could complain. When a liaison officer visited him it became clear this was his total occupation. Others might have been happy to have the viewing opportunities he had.

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I'd be the one phoning to complain.... that they're not low enough, nor fast enough, nor do they let me know when they're coming LOL. I don't do gardening, don't have a greenhouse, so no windows to shatter, only the house double glazing and we're in social housing so let the housing association complain to the RAF  :tongue: over replacing the glass.

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15 hours ago, Luis Hernandez said:

No exercising, not even walking the dog...

So, you are supposed to ruin their housebreaking by letting them "go" indoors? :ohmy:

If I still had a dog at least I have a small fenced in backyard where he could go for such matters...


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17 minutes ago, n4gix said:

 

If I still had a dog at least I have a small fenced in backyard where he could go for such matters...

That's what I do!.......and I don't even have a dog :laugh:

Sure get big roses, though!

 

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18 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Crikey! Haven’t bought those in decades. Muesli these days but bit tricky to apply. 😁

A walking stick works beautifully....

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Apparently there's a study that suggests blood type plays a role in how badly you get Covid and whether you are more likely to die. This study has not been peer reviewed, so don't take it as gospel but it suggests that people with Type O blood may be better protected and people with Type A blood might be worse off. I'm type B+ so no idea what that means. Average risk I presume. 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/commentary/coronavirus-covid-19-blood-type-link-risk-infect-chinese-study-12570290

 

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UK

Fact: there are no more people or animals to be fed than there were before this started.

Government state: do not go out except for food. If possible order online for home delivery. Result: no online deliveries at all from anywhere available for at least three weeks, the full initial length of the "lockdown". People have been reserving delivery slots for themselves for three weeks when they are in no need of any purchases. Therefore the vulnerable cannot get a look in.

Go to the shops instead. Wait outside, 2m from the next person, eventually go inside, shop shelves empty. Result: despite assurances to the contrary, the food chain is not coping, stupidity and selfishness has overwhelmed it. This despite the fact that the entire catering trade has been closed down, presumably leaving a vast amount of unused food somewhere and that no one can be found who will admit to buying anything extra.

Try to order dog food from the supplier that has been used for years. Result: website closed to allow staff to catch up with massive orders, to feed exactly the same number of animals.

Inevitable result: refuse collectors report that bins are filling with waste fresh food that has been stockpiled but now gone rotten. Millions of people must be filling their homes with products in such quantities that they will never be used, while those who actually need them can find none for sale.

There are of course vast numbers of people who are far worse off than this on a daily basis and this is very much a self-inflicted first world problem, even though it seems to have spread everywhere. It is however frustrating that it need not be happening at all.

 

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2 hours ago, martin-w said:

Apparently there's a study that suggests blood type plays a role in how badly you get Covid and whether you are more likely to die. This study has not been peer reviewed, so don't take it as gospel but it suggests that people with Type O blood may be better protected and people with Type A blood might be worse off. I'm type B+ so no idea what that means. Average risk I presume. 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/commentary/coronavirus-covid-19-blood-type-link-risk-infect-chinese-study-12570290

 

Interesting study. The third hospital results were stated as inconclusive, but they actually seem to reinforce the results from the other two. Am I missing something.

At Shenzhen Third People’s Hospital, 29 per cent of the control population (23,386) had blood group A and 39 per cent blood group O. 

Of the 285 COVID-19 patients, 28.8 per cent had blood group A and 28.4 per cent blood group O. 

The control population blood group proportions suggest that with no other factors involved, you might expect similar proportions in the infected group. 

In fact the group O cases look to be less than might have been expected, suggesting that the blood group may be a factor.


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29 minutes ago, Biggles2010 said:

The third hospital results were stated as inconclusive, but they actually seem to reinforce the results from the other two. Am I missing something.

When they say 'inconclusive' they don't mean that the results were contrary to what they tended to indicate, they mean that without further study, there is the possibility that any conclusion drawn from that specific example could - until they can absolutely confirm otherwise - equally be an unusual 'blip' in the statistics of what would normally be the case. Because of that, it would be premature to draw any conclusion which one could have absolute confidence in. After all, the primary objective at the time those stats were taken, was not to study such a trend, but to treat the patients, so it was unlikely to have taken place in an environment where the careful control of any influencing factors was taking place when saving lives was of course the priority.

Let's say you roll a pair of dice and both come up six, then you do it nine more times and every time they both come up six to give you ten double sixes in a row. It'd be freaky and it might tend to indicate that these dice always land on six, but it could still just possibly be a fluke that you got ten double sixes in a row. So until you give it a few more tries, and also examine the dice and indeed the surface you are rolling the dice on and anything else which might potentially influence the result of the dice rolls, you would be incorrect to draw a decisive conclusion based solely on those ten throw results with no other analysis.

Of course after a thorough and detailed analysis, you might indeed accurately conclude that the dice are loaded, but until then, it is entirely possible - albeit freaky - that you could roll ten double sixes in a row with a completely ordinary pair of dice. Just as it is possible that people of a particular blood group might do better in recovering from a viral infection purely by chance.

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27 minutes ago, Chock said:

When they say 'inconclusive' they don't mean that the results were contrary to what they tended to indicate, they mean that without further study, there is the possibility that any conclusion drawn from that specific example could - until they can absolutely confirm otherwise

I understand what you say and don't really disagree. My post was about the curious nature of the figures for Shenzhen, and I was not suggesting any conclusion should be assumed.

Reading further down the report it says:

Although there was a significant difference between the patients of COVID-19 with blood groups A and O in the Wuhan hospitals, there was no significant difference in the Shenzhen hospital.

The figures they provide for the control group suggest they might have expected a higher number of infected patients than they had, in group O, if blood groups did not influence the infection rate. That seems farely evident. Of course all this is speculative until validated.


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Hey the youngsters

Beyond statistics, there is life. My son who is a MD in Paris tells us about one colleague's wife  and one colleague who are  in reanimation,. Both below 40 yo. Both without prior conditions.

More and more, at ground level, there is the feeling that acute forms of this illness strike very hard the young.

Be careful.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Reader said:

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Fact: there are no more people or animals to be fed than there were before this started.

Result: no online deliveries at all from anywhere available for at least three weeks, the full initial length of the "lockdown". People have been reserving delivery slots for themselves for three weeks when they are in no need of any purchases. Therefore the vulnerable cannot get a look in.

 

 

 

 

My son has just seen on Facebook, a guy requesting Morison's online delivery... 129,000 in the queue. 😦

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3 minutes ago, domkle said:

More and more, at ground level, there is the feeling that acute forms of this illness strike very hard the young.

Definitely.  It's happening in other countries too. There have been a number of similar cases in the UK. It might persuade some of the remaining young rebels to comply with the precautions.


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