March 12th, 2020 Development Update

[skully 1,045]

13 minutes ago, eslader said:

I want to see that, and the cockpit of the 747. I'm very curious what the comparison between default and PMDG is gonna be this go-round.

 

Since Boeing and Airbus are partners with MS / Asobo on this project, we can only hope those aircraft will be something special compared to previous default aircraft.

[Brandon01110 407]

10 minutes ago, ChaoticBeauty said:

so unless your current CPU is too weak it might be worth waiting for the newer products.

i7-4770, gtx1070, i'm gonna get the 3080ti when that is available.  no risk there but going broke  🙂

[eslader 1,784]

30 minutes ago, skully said:

Since Boeing and Airbus are partners with MS / Asobo on this project, we can only hope those aircraft will be something special compared to previous default aircraft.

Agreed, but that's not a guarantee. Dassault was supposedly on board with Wilco for the 7x and we all know how that turned out. 😉

 

 

Edited March 13, 2020 by eslader

[Ray Proudfoot 8,966]

58 minutes ago, eslader said:

I want to see that, and the cockpit of the 747. I'm very curious what the comparison between default and PMDG is gonna be this go-round.

Significant. The specialist aircraft companies will always have the advantage as they are dedicated to one product and not a whole simulator. Microsoft bean counters will ensure they don't spend too long on certain aspects.

[Krakin 5,774]

24 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Significant. The specialist aircraft companies will always have the advantage as they are dedicated to one product and not a whole simulator. Microsoft bean counters will ensure they don't spend too long on certain aspects.

Um yeah you don't know that for certain. These specialist companies despite their laser focused dedication still often need 5 years to get the job done. Resources make all the difference and MS has lots of it. Not saying there's no chance the difference won't be significant, just saying we don't know enough to say for sure either way.

[Kpeters 42]

17 hours ago, simtom said:

March 12th, 2020 Development Update

 

 

Has anyone actually absorbed the amount of detail that's in this shot? Not only the aircraft but the small terminal at Sirena, Costa Rica. It's just a grass strip with a range station in the middle of nowhere! You can read the posters, all signs, there's luggae. It's crazy. Absolutely love it I'm aching to fly the alpha.

[Ray Proudfoot 8,966]

41 minutes ago, Krakin said:

Um yeah you don't know that for certain. These specialist companies despite their laser focused dedication still often need 5 years to get the job done. Resources make all the difference and MS has lots of it. Not saying there's no chance the difference won't be significant, just saying we don't know enough to say for sure either way.

I didn’t mention any timescale on conversion. I just said the difference between the default aircraft and third party equivalent will be significant. Yes, Microsoft may have the resources but it’s the bean counters that decide when the product is ready, not the development team. That’s why FSX had so many bugs.

[Mgard78 141]

7 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I didn’t mention any timescale on conversion. I just said the difference between the default aircraft and third party equivalent will be significant. Yes, Microsoft may have the resources but it’s the bean counters that decide when the product is ready, not the development team. That’s why FSX had so many bugs.

Whereas the specialists' products had no bugs.... 🙄

Edited March 13, 2020 by Mgard78
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[eslader 1,784]

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Microsoft bean counters will ensure they don't spend too long on certain aspects.

And yet they spent time making sure the grass textures had several color variations as shown in the above image. It's looking so far (and don't get me wrong, this could easily change) like they're putting some love into this project beyond just "I want to earn a buck."

I agree that PMDG is likely to eclipse the default 747, but how exactly do we define "significant?" Is it going to be the difference between PMDG and a completely unrealistic 747 with unrealistic flight characteristics, or is the difference going to be on the higher side, where both planes fly nicely, look great, and simulate normal events very well but perhaps with inaccurate or non-functional systems, but then PMDG goes the extra mile and simulates abnormal events, etc?

In short, will the default planes be at the level of Carenado, or QualityWings? 😉

 

 

Edited March 13, 2020 by eslader

[Tuskin38 6,532]

7 hours ago, honanhal said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hōryū-ji

(Temple, not a castle/palace.)

Thanks.
 

This makes me wonder what their criteria is to choose to custom model something like this.

Edited March 13, 2020 by Tuskin38

[Ray Proudfoot 8,966]

@eslader, I suspect the big differences will be in the CDU with Navigraph updates and refining the flight model. That’s just my own personal opinion. For now, I just want to see how Ai handle landing, braking and exiting the active.

[Ray Proudfoot 8,966]

21 minutes ago, Mgard78 said:

Whereas the specialists' products had no bugs.... 🙄

All products have bugs. Even the device you’re using to write that message. Some are significant, others aren’t. Finding them is the job of beta testers.

[vortex681 806]

2 hours ago, Brandon01110 said:

i7-4770, gtx1070, i'm gonna get the 3080ti when that is available.  no risk there but going broke  🙂

If you keep your existing CPU, that’s going to be a seriously unbalanced system! You’ll be spending a lot of money on a GPU which will be significantly under-utilised.

[jhnWik 51]

Beyond belief !

 

[Mgard78 141]

1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

All products have bugs. Even the device you’re using to write that message. Some are significant, others aren’t. Finding them is the job of beta testers.

And fixing them, of the dev team... who has larger teams..?