11 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Because of their pricing policy and customer service, I haven't bought a PMDG addon since FS9 - doesn't matter to me how good they are. 

I honestly can’t blame you. I sort of looked at it like “don’t cut your nose off to spite your face.” I hated making the payment but I know in the end, life is short, especially considering the craziness going on right now. I will probably end up happier having bought it because the buyer’s remorse will wear off in short order.

Cheers, Pete

Being myself in the marketing business, I'm a stickler for excellent customer service, and I won't support a company that consistently falls short. As I said, if PMDG were the only company left to make addons, I'd rather switch to Eurotruck simulator. 

PMDG has managed to convince simmers that there offerings are the "best" - but is this actually true? Is there objective data on this? I'm not convinced. Most of us are not Boeing pilots, so we have to take their word for this. 

The ifly 737 and 747 do the job of getting you from A to B just fine. 

31 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

Being myself in the marketing business, I'm a stickler for excellent customer service, and I won't support a company that consistently falls short. As I said, if PMDG were the only company left to make addons, I'd rather switch to Eurotruck simulator. 

PMDG has managed to convince simmers that there offerings are the "best" - but is this actually true? Is there objective data on this? I'm not convinced. Most of us are not Boeing pilots, so we have to take their word for this. 

The ifly 737 and 747 do the job of getting you from A to B just fine. 

I have both the iFly 737 and 747 and I agree they are both excellent.

Cheers, Pete

I bought the NGXu after learning about its release well after the incentive ended for credit towards MSFS.  After making peace w/ the tiller ground steering I really, really like this plane!  There are multiple differences between it and the prior release and every one of them adds value for me.  It is so much more polished.  But the tiller ground steering done w/ the Cessna Trim Wheel as tiller is just fabulous and I can't wait until the other models from PMDG go to this which believe they will.  It's so much more realistic to have ultra fine control which makes taxiing a very pleasant part of the whole flight experience.  The EFB's I'm just getting in to, I love the built-in REQUEST/LOAD into the performance init interface, the exterior model is stunning, and VNAV and LNAV seem smoother and more like the 777 in that regard.  One oddity I find is the PBR lighting for the main panel sections is so demanding on the GPU--just turn those two light dimly on and bam, 10% increase or more in GPU loading and really it's just giving that soft night lighting to small sections of the VC in two areas.   Best be careful w/ implementing PBR!

10 minutes ago, PilotPete99 said:

I have both the iFly 737 and 747 and I agree they are both excellent.

Cheers, Pete

Frustratingly though, the extra price (again and again) with the NGX(u) and QOTS (II) is worth it for the extra quality, systems depth and features that are lacking in the other add-ons.  
 

 

Edited May 2, 20206 yr by Doug47
Grammar

One thing about the PMDG birds that, although not that big of a deal, I really value is the livery manager. It is the best I have ever seen, basically word not allowed proof. This was something that turned me off about iFly. Adding liveries, for me, seem like a big pain in the butt. It is so easy to add several liveries for the PMDG in literally seconds.

Cheers, Pete

18 hours ago, Nobody2020 said:

"So" ... consider that beginning a sentence with "So" adds nothing to the content - it's fine without the "So".

But, to the point, why would anyone buy the 737 NGXu simulation for P3Dv4, now that P3Dv5  is upon us?  It's not yer daddy's P3Dv4 anymore.  Your money, but, why?

I would respectfully like to request an answer as to why this post, which is condescending at best, has not been removed. I see that the handful of posts calling this guy out have all been removed. There was nothing bad whatsoever about my response to this post. His "point" could have been made without the snarky comment. I am not sure I understand this.

Cheers, Pete

12 hours ago, OzWhitey said:

(cough...Kyle)

Not there anymore.

12 hours ago, OzWhitey said:

double post

 

Edited May 2, 20206 yr by PATCO LCH
cancel double post

40 minutes ago, PilotPete99 said:

I would respectfully like to request an answer as to why this post, which is condescending at best, has not been removed. I see that the handful of posts calling this guy out have all been removed. There was nothing bad whatsoever about my response to this post. His "point" could have been made without the snarky comment. I am not sure I understand this.

Cheers, Pete

I am in a 100% agreement with this...it’s exactly what I thought when I saw everyone else’s post removed except that one, I never once was disappointed with things being moderated with avsim until this...I also respectfully request An explanation should be made even though this isn’t my post....At the very very least the moderator who removed it could have removed that comment within the post and left the rest of his post.

Edited May 2, 20206 yr by flyinpilot212121

1 hour ago, PilotPete99 said:

I would respectfully like to request an answer as to why this post, which is condescending at best, has not been removed.  Cheers, Pete

Considering the source is just another 'nobody' updated for 2020, I'd just ignore it and likely it will go away on its own.

I think both PMDG & Majestic know their product(s) are so good they deprioritize customer service knowing they've won't lose too many over poor CS.  I loath asking for anything on the Maj forum and I'm sure they loath me asking questions there.   I don't know if he is a moderator or not, but 'Snave', knowledgeable as he appears to be, I think just sits in wait to deliver the next terse response.  I think his name is a portmanteau of Snide Knave or something along those lines.  Kroswynd responds but often I find his responses dodging of any real help.   Or it's a British thing not sure.  But I does really like the Crash 8 

Edited May 2, 20206 yr by Noel

49 minutes ago, Noel said:

Considering the source is just another 'nobody' updated for 2020, I'd just ignore it and likely it will go away on its own.

Very prescient of you, sir. 

I don't enjoy environments where everyone's so bunched all the time.

This is my last post.

Buh-bye - I'm gone.

4 hours ago, Noel said:

Considering the source is just another 'nobody' updated for 2020, I'd just ignore it and likely it will go away on its own.

I think both PMDG & Majestic know their product(s) are so good they deprioritize customer service knowing they've won't lose too many over poor CS.  I loath asking for anything on the Maj forum and I'm sure they loath me asking questions there.   I don't know if he is a moderator or not, but 'Snave', knowledgeable as he appears to be, I think just sits in wait to deliver the next terse response.  I think his name is a portmanteau of Snide Knave or something along those lines.  Kroswynd responds but often I find his responses dodging of any real help.   Or it's a British thing not sure.  But I does really like the Crash 8 

I take it all back CS at PMDG and Majestic are the best possible CS anywhere in the FS world!  I don't know what got into me!  Oh, and BTW the other best are the folks at FSCaptain--those people are exemplary of customer-oriented CS.  I've tried to donate twice to them but they don't seem to want it!  

7 hours ago, Doug47 said:

features

That I like....and hands down...they made it right.....BUT! If they don't change few things they will be quickly forgotten. Competition is already eating them alive...so they better do something and something good if they want us to pay the $$....

Edited May 3, 20206 yr by cyyzrwy24

13 hours ago, PATCO LCH said:

Not there anymore.

Yes, but was there for a long time. I’ve basically avoided the PMDG forums during that era because i didn’t really like the ‘vibe’. Did the same with Orbx for a long time after the venema “we are not your friends” rant.

FS devs really need to understand that a lot of purchases are driven by a feeling of community spirit - this is why i will support the devs who kindly gave away free stuff during the recent “stay at home” sales.

Edited May 3, 20206 yr by OzWhitey