May 31, 20206 yr Ladies and gentlemen, Don't laugh, I will give you today the magic recipe to enjoy P3Dv5 without fear of CTDs, BSODs and other DGXI errors!!! 100% certified, tested by our international laboratories!!! No chloroquine was used during the tests.😄 Are you ready? Let's go! 🦜RULE 1 Forget P3D v1 / 2/3/4, you are dealing with another beast, which eats DirectX12 for breakfast.P3DV5 HATES UNSTABLE MACHINES! Check that yours is stable with IntelBurnTest (high or very high stress levels are enough). You might be surprised and realize that your PC is not that stable. This is why you will first reduce your CPU OC (between 5% and 8%) and put HT back to ON, for those like me who had so far preferred not to use hyperthreading. Reducing the CPU speed will compensate for the HT ON and you will have no problem with overheating. (My 9900k was running @5.1 with HT OFF, now running @HT [email protected], small heat's increase but very acceptable)Reduce your RAM OC if they are over their factory default settings. If you had overclocked the GPU, reset it also to the default values. 🦜RULE 2Install the Windows 10 2004 update. Half of the problems encountered with P3Dv5 will disappear, this new Win10 version dealing much better with VRAM and DX12. To get and install the update, you can wait for MS to propose it or you can do it the "warriors way" (actually very easy) and download the latest builds (AMD64 for Intel and AMD) from UUP Dump, a great site. Once the chosen version has been downloaded, click on the aria2_download_windows.cmd file to start loading the latest Windows version. The process lasts a few minutes until an ISO file is obtained which you can then mount on a USB key (I recommend using rufus-3.10, portable version, super efficient and fast). Once the version is mounted, click on the setup file on your USB key from Windows (and not from the BIOS!) in order to start the update. That way you will keep all your files and programs and you will find the same desktop once the update is finished.Warning! Only update if you have a recent graphics card (from GTX980, 1080 to RTX2080) because Win10 2004 sometimes encounters some problems with old cards. 🦜RULE 3Don't use EA together with 4096x4096 textures until LM releases next HF. It will put your machine on its knees and if you choose 2048 textures, you won't see a big difference. 🦜RULE 4 If you use EA (I personally love it even in beta stage), never use Ultra High Cloud resolution at this stage. High resolution is ok. 🦜RULE 5 Don't blame LM, blame yourself or any third party addons! I know I'm not just going to make friends by saying that... but it's true. P3Dv5HF1 vanilla install does not crash. It is the stability of your computer or that of certain badly coded addons that is responsible for crashes. If P3D was until now very tolerant with overheating, approximate OCs and addons programmed for FSX, this is no longer the case for version 5. The Self-proclaimed GuruP3D🥳 Edited May 31, 20206 yr by David Roch - PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D // Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO // 2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 // ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600 // Corsair 1600W PSU Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor. - Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7.
May 31, 20206 yr Huh. I’m completely stock and have only installed updated add-ons, and haven’t had a CTD since the hotfix came out. I’ve also used 4096 textures and ultra-high cloud resolutions with EA. Maybe just stop experimenting with homebrew changes to the program and your PC?
May 31, 20206 yr Author Of course this humorous thread is intended only for those who have stability problems with P3Dv5 and the number of subjects on this forum shows that they are several.Hoping that it helps them, because I struggled for 2 months.Is your P3Dv5 in good health?Awesome! No need for Dr. David's magic potion!⛱️ - PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D // Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO // 2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 // ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600 // Corsair 1600W PSU Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor. - Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7.
May 31, 20206 yr I do believe that all your points are valid, those are indeed real good and pertinent advices, with a small but... 2 hours ago, David Roch said: Don't blame LM, blame yourself or any third party addons! I do blame LM for making the unsmoothest release ever since the beginning of P3D (and also for the quiet release of v4.5 HF3). And I do blame LM as for the first time they release a part of ehancement in BETA. And I also blame LM for eating 6+ Gig of VRAM with HD textures (when other more complex SW handle everything with half of that. I don't blame LM for crashes due to Video card drivers, OC, and other not LM related stuff (which is a lot!) Gerald K. - Germany AMD 7800x3D / ASUS ROG X670E-Gaming / ASUS Strix RTX 3090 OC / 64 Gb RAM GSKILL. "Flightstick" = X56 HOTAS RGB Logitech
May 31, 20206 yr Mmmm... 1 No HT and heavily OC’d 2 No W10 2004 update 3 1024x1024 4 EA at High, but using regular mode ( because of the mini sun ) 5 Yep, I am to blame 😄 Both pc’s superstable 🤠 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
May 31, 20206 yr 45 minutes ago, GSalden said: Mmmm... 1 No HT and heavily OC’d 2 No W10 2004 update 3 1024x1024 4 EA at High, but using regular mode ( because of the mini sun ) 5 Yep, I am to blame 😄 Both pc’s superstable 🤠 Do you run 4k? I'm just wondering if setting the texture that low (1024) is something that makes the quality poor. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
May 31, 20206 yr Author 1 hour ago, GEKtheReaper said: I do believe that all your points are valid, those are indeed real good and pertinent advices, with a small but... I do blame LM for making the unsmoothest release ever since the beginning of P3D (and also for the quiet release of v4.5 HF3). And I do blame LM as for the first time they release a part of ehancement in BETA. And I also blame LM for eating 6+ Gig of VRAM with HD textures (when other more complex SW handle everything with half of that. I don't blame LM for crashes due to Video card drivers, OC, and other not LM related stuff (which is a lot!) Only talking about crashes here 😉 I respect all your other points, but they are subjective. Do you remember when MS released the "DX10 Preview" for FSX? It was also kind of beta. And do you remember P3Dv4 at the beginning? Not really better than this release. 44 minutes ago, GSalden said: Mmmm... 1 No HT and heavily OC’d 2 No W10 2004 update 3 1024x1024 4 EA at High, but using regular mode ( because of the mini sun ) 5 Yep, I am to blame 😄 Both pc’s superstable 🤠 Yes Gerard but you use 1024 textures and not EA (even though you call it "EA with regular mode"). And that makes a BIG difference. - PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D // Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO // 2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 // ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600 // Corsair 1600W PSU Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor. - Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7.
May 31, 20206 yr 4 minutes ago, micstatic said: Do you run 4k? I'm just wondering if setting the texture that low (1024) is something that makes the quality poor. Running at 4K won't make 1024 textures appear any better, and they look really bad. Having to use them is one of my biggest gripes with V5 right now, because it's a significant step backward from what I could achieve in V4.
May 31, 20206 yr 2 hours ago, David Roch said: Of course this humorous thread is intended only for those who have stability problems with P3Dv5 and the number of subjects on this forum shows that they are several.Hoping that it helps them, because I struggled for 2 months.Is your P3Dv5 in good health?Awesome! No need for Dr. David's magic potion!⛱️ Rule 1. yes I run my 9900k at 5.2 ht on ( binned CPU ) Rule 2. yes http://
May 31, 20206 yr 1024 V5 4K no windows 2004. https://www.flickr.com/photos/154944674@N05/49956068312/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/154944674@N05/49956067547/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/154944674@N05/49925490068/in/dateposted-public/ I run a clapped out 3 year old PC. Edited May 31, 20206 yr by G-RFRY Raymond Fry.
May 31, 20206 yr Author These few tips are for those who have a recent PC, powerful enough to run P3Dv5 with EA (Enhanced Atmospherics) and high graphics settings.Otherwise, they will be of no use to you. Edited May 31, 20206 yr by David Roch - PC Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D // Asus ROG Crosshair X870E HERO // 2x32Gb Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5 6000MT/s CL30 // ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 4090 OC Edition // 4Tb Corsair NVMe M.2 MP600 // Corsair 1600W PSU Samsung Odyssey Arc 55" curved 165 Hz monitor. - Simulator Hardware: VIRPIL Constellation Alpha Prime + VIRPIL VPC Universal Control Panel - #3 + MOZA AY210 Force Feedback Yoke + WINWING URSA MINOR 32 Throttle & PAC Metal + WINWING SKYWALKER Metal Rudder Pedals + WINWING Airbus FCU & EFIS + WINWING Boeing 3N PAP + WINWING MCDU-32 + WINWING PFP-4 + WINWING PFP 3-N + WINWING PFP-7.
May 31, 20206 yr 30 minutes ago, David Roch said: These few tips are for those who have a recent PC, powerful enough to run P3Dv5 with EA (Enhanced Atmospherics) and high graphics settings.Otherwise, they will be of no use to you. agree, what i did was enabled HT and downclocked 200mhz with EA and be sure to have a 100% stable system http://
May 31, 20206 yr 5 hours ago, David Roch said: I know I'm not just going to make friends by saying that... but it's true. P3Dv5HF1 vanilla install does not crash. This is wrong, especially if you ask anyone with an AMD graphics card.
May 31, 20206 yr Randomly telling people to reduce their OC and at the same time turning hyperthreading back on (thus increasing temps again) is kinda absurd. I hope people don't just blindly follow the OP. Edited May 31, 20206 yr by flycln
May 31, 20206 yr 12 minutes ago, flycln said: Randomly telling people to reduce their OC and at the same time turning hyperthreading back on (thus increasing temps again) is kinda absurd. I hope people don't just blindly follow the OP. Just add him to the handful of people on this forum (we all know to whom I'm referring) who jump on here with clickbait subject lines to share their wisdom. It always ends up being flat-out wrong, painfully obvious, or highly circumstantial advice. "Magic," "zero-crash certified." Please.
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