1 hour ago, LHookins said:

Not only no other flight simulation, but no other third party.  You'd think the market for a rational air traffic control simulation add-on would be big enough to justify making one.   

Lazy?  Not smart enough?  Apathetic?  

Or maybe it's just impossible. It's not like no one has ever tried.

Hook

There are several aftermarket ATC products for 20-year old simulators. That's a fantastic excuse for doing a poor job with this one.

1 hour ago, LHookins said:

I wonder why no one has done it then.

Hook

Because the market clearly accepts a half-assed effort. Defends it even.

1 minute ago, mtr75 said:

Does your phone still look like this:

Mine does. 🙂  I have no use for a smart phone, and I'm still on a land line at home.  It's actually a Panasonic, with talking caller-ID.

Hook

2 minutes ago, mtr75 said:

There are several aftermarket ATC products for 20-year old simulators.

Name one that you like.

Hook

2 minutes ago, LHookins said:

Name one that you like.

Hook

I don't use one.

We're gonna need something stronger than popcorn come release day.

Hook

2 minutes ago, LHookins said:

We're gonna need something stronger than popcorn come release day.

Hook

Or how about this: do you still use Windows 2000? What would you say if I told there was no reason not to - it's perfectly fine just like it is!

Defending something from 2020 because it's about as good as something from 2000 is absolutely absurd.

 

6 minutes ago, Der Zeitgeist said:

Getting pretty close to my blocked list...

What were you saying about straw man arguments? 😄 

*I* don't use a third party ATC program because I don't use ATC.  Why do *YOU* not use a third party ATC program?

Hook

2 minutes ago, mtr75 said:

Getting pretty close to my blocked list...

Oh, that's fine, don't worry! As long as I can still follow the discussion here. I mean we're only at eight pages now, you guys can easily get this up to 80 in a few days. 😊

6 hours ago, Der Zeitgeist said:

So, where do we stand now? Have the high priests of aviation determined if airplanes are allowed to fly at 8800 ft or whatever it was? 😅

This is correct. The people who actually know the rules in the real world have confirmed this is allowed.

2 minutes ago, Der Zeitgeist said:

Oh, that's fine, don't worry! As long as I can still follow the discussion here. I mean we're only at eight pages now, you guys can easily get this up to 80 in a few days. 😊

So, do you recommend I add him to my twit filter or not?  Is the discussion entertaining enough for it to continue?

Hook

6 minutes ago, mtr75 said:

Or how about this: do you still use Windows 2000? What would you say if I told there was no reason not to - it's perfectly fine just like it is!

Defending something from 2020 because it's about as good as something from 2000 is absolutely absurd.

 

If no one had ever made a better OS than windows 2000, I would still be using Windows 2000.  Thus it is with Ai based FS ATC.  I mean, I use Pro ATC x, but that is just trading one set of inaccuracies for another, and it doesn’t do VFR so...

 

actually to be honest, I’ve never used Windows 2000.  Went from 98 to XP.  Not sure how that fits with the analogy, but it is what it is

5 minutes ago, LHookins said:

So, do you recommend I add him to my twit filter or not?  Is the discussion entertaining enough for it to continue?

Hook

I'm not sure. Has he seen a video of the pushback guy with the prop engine running already?