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3rd Party addons only available via Microsoft Store?

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You don't have to sell through the in-game marketplace. However I expect most will offer that option, simply because of the increased visibility for impulse buyers and people who don't know where to begin looking for third-party addons.

It also probably means the sim itself manages your add-ons to make sure they are installed properly, and patched up to date, if you go that route.

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7 hours ago, n4gix said:

All add-on content must be compiled into a custom package and installed into a separate add-on folder, no matter where they are sold.

It is my understanding that at least FSX/P3D aircraft can simply be dropped into the simobjects folder.

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19 minutes ago, Scottoest said:

You don't have to sell through the in-game marketplace. However I expect most will offer that option, simply because of the increased visibility for impulse buyers and people who don't know where to begin looking for third-party addons.

It also probably means the sim itself manages your add-ons to make sure they are installed properly, and patched up to date, if you go that route.

Yeah indeed, I think it will auto update these contents. For me, I am happy this store exists and I am sure it will be my go store to buy add-ons, is very convenient I must say. 

Also, honestly I don't think it will be more expensive to sell in the built-in store, maybe the commission fee could be more expensive but addones developers know that the built-in store will unlock a wide new channel, especially when the Xbox version releases, therefore there will be good ROI for these developers from the built-in store. 

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8 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

If that’s the case and I reiterate IF, then everything could become more expensive as an additional charge would almost certainly be levied. It might also explain how some of the running costs could be recouped.

 

7 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Many small developers use SimMarket who charge commission of course. I wonder if we might see a price war.

I think many people are still viewing MSFS through their P3D/X-Plane glasses. Orbx have seen the future (good for them) and reduced their pricing accordingly. FS is so good at release that many, new and old, simmers will not need to purchase addons. And with the promise from Asobo that work is continuing on the platform for at least ten years! A lot of people will simply wait and see unless pricing on addons is just too tempting. I wait with baited breath for PMDG's initial pricing. Those that have any doubts about this should watch last nights stream from MS/Asobo. The Pardigm has changed forever!

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20 minutes ago, dilore said:

It is my understanding that at least FSX/P3D aircraft can simply be dropped into the simobjects folder.

LOL, what simobjects folder? I think many people are still viewing MSFS through their P3D/X-Plane glasses.

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1 minute ago, SierraHotel said:

 

Those that have any doubts about this should watch last nights stream from MS/Asobo. The Pardigm has changed forever!

It is funny that two persons can listen to the same third party and draw opposite conclusions. Mine is that the rather interesting interview confirms that the old paradigm is back in full force if it has ever left the field : a platform of quality energized by third party developers able to do sales through their own channel.

I don’t say you are wrong, mind you, just that my understanding is that we stay on known grounds. 

 

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Just now, Dominique_K said:

It is funny that two persons can listen to the same third party and draw opposite conclusions. Mine is that the rather interesting interview confirms that the old paradigm is back in full force if it has ever left the field : a platform of quality energized by third party developers able to do sales through their own channel.

I don’t say you are wrong, mind you, just that my understanding is that we stay on known grounds. 

 

I don't remember saying the opposite? What I said was that the RC is so good, unlike P3D and X-Plane there is no urgent need to rush out and buy addons just to make the sim worth using. This in turn will force addon developers to re-think their pricing as has already happened with Orbx. And please show me the pre paradigm platform you were reffering to? P3D? X-Plane? neither of those came with content anywhere near to what MSFS is offering! You are correct about one thing though, perspective. After flying MSFS for eight hours a day for the last two months the comparison is stark and as much as people are finding it hard to believe, the World of flight simulators has changed forever.

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30 minutes ago, SierraHotel said:

LOL, what simobjects folder? I think many people are still viewing MSFS through their P3D/X-Plane glasses.

This one?

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16 minutes ago, SierraHotel said:

 the World of flight simulators has changed forever.

the world of flight simulators has always been like that; sims comes sims goes

nothing new here; is a cycle that keep repeating; this is just another sim; and there will be another and another in the future.

8 minutes ago, dilore said:

This one?

FS-019

My apologies, I missed that completley (I had my P3D glasses on 😜).

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16 minutes ago, SierraHotel said:

I don't remember saying the opposite? What I said was that the RC is so good, unlike P3D and X-Plane there is no urgent need to rush out and buy addons just to make the sim worth using. This in turn will force addon developers to re-think their pricing as has already happened with Orbx. And please show me the pre paradigm platform you were reffering to? P3D? X-Plane? neither of those came with content anywhere near to what MSFS is offering! You are correct about one thing though, perspective. After flying MSFS for eight hours a day for the last two months the comparison is stark and as much as people are finding it hard to believe, the World of flight simulators has changed forever.

P3D.

FS20 is a whole new iteration made with a lot of genuine passion. I have not any doubt that the environment is way better, specially when LM is taking a long nap since early v4.

What Neuman said yesterday concerning the aircraft is that they didn’t want to go in depth to leave the market open to TPD. The old paradigm. FS20 will reach its potential with top tier outside developments. To be very clear : I welcome that they leave the field open to all the PMDG and A2A of the world but I would also welcome to see a couple of good aircraft to do the waiting. Crossing the fingers.
 

 

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7 hours ago, Ian S said:

Just handful of existing airports at the moment. The only new item is a London landmarks package, I don't know if this is on a par and derived from TE GB South or a whole new product, I haven't looked that closely.

It's an entirely new product

Developers are free to have their own stores and distribute as they wish. If they wish to sell through the MS Marketplace then they'll get better reach, just as you would with Steam. 

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2 hours ago, RALF9636 said:

It has been confirmed long ago that this is not the case. 

https://www.flightsimulator.com/july-16th-2020-development-update/

The Marketplace will operate under an Agency model, which means that you, as the content creator, will set the price for every piece of content you submit. Becoming a partner doesn’t alter your ability to sell your content on your own websites and storefronts. Just like with FSX, you can continue to sell your content outside of our Marketplace. Becoming a Microsoft Flight Simulator Marketplace Partner essentially unlocks another channel for you.

But Mathijs was referring to the 'Microsoft Store' - not the Marketplace. He hasn't answered my question yet so I'm not commenting further until I have more info.

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10 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

 made me wonder if all 3rd party addons will only be available via the Microsoft Store.

 

 

No. This is not the case. It has been confirmed that add-ons will be available from the store or from the third party developers website.

2 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

 

What Neuman said yesterday concerning the aircraft is that they didn’t want to go in depth to leave the market open to TPD. The old paradigm. FS20 will reach its potential with top tier outside developments. To be very clear : I welcome that they leave the field open to all the PMDG and A2A of the world but I would also welcome to see a couple of good aircraft to do the waiting. Crossing the fingers.
 

 

Wloch also said that the GA aircraft are mostly accurate, only with the more complex aircraft they focussed on those features that are essential for flying. And they will keep working on the default aircraft (he said "not yet" regarding the seatbelt switch).

So I agree that there definitely is still a need for PMDG and FSL, regarding A2A for small GA aircraft I am not so sure, unless you want a specific type only A2A offers. 

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