1 hour ago, Colonel X said:

https://www.computerbase.de/2020-08/flight-simulator-benchmark-test/?amp=1

Well, there you go, it's not "our system". Basically, it's FSX tech - CPU bottlenecked, bad GPU usage, wildly varying loads depending on plane. Asobos descision to go with DX11, what a fail. 

Up to 74% FPS loss by plane - good night PMDG.

Really strange - both you and the German site must have gotten another version of the game than the one I downloaded. I agree that the installer is wonky so who knows? If you feel that the performance is awful are you sure that you don't have some hardware problem or similar?

I'm just back after taking a flight from Nice following the road to a friends house near Cannes where I have been a couple of times. In a King Air at 230 kts I followed the main highway from Nice, turned right at the weird looking crossing near Mogins, followed the highway towards Grasse and turned left along the road - following a small village road for a while and found their house on the first try. All this at 230 kts at 1000 feet with great FPS. Turned towards the sea to a beautiful glittering ocean that looked just like when sipping some rosé on their roof top porch. It felt like I was actually there.

I really can't remember that feeling in FSX. At all. Ever.

Frametimes are not always a performance issue. You can get 120FPS and still get microstutters. In this case, I have a bad feeling. In X-Plane, it required a complete render engine rewrite to fix them. 
 

Also, what many people don't realize, if your engine causes microstutters, you can simply forget VR. 

1 minute ago, mazex said:

Really strange - both you and the German site must have gotten another version of the game than the one I downloaded. I agree that the installer is wonky so who knows? If you feel that the performance is awful are you sure that you don't have some hardware problem or similar?

I'm just back after taking a flight from Nice following the road to a friends house near Cannes where I have been a couple of times. In a King Air at 230 kts I followed the main highway from Nice, turned right at the weird looking crossing near Mogins, followed the highway towards Grasse and turned left along the road - following a small village road for a while and found their house on the first try. All this at 230 kts at 1000 feet with great FPS. Turned towards the sea to a beautiful glittering ocean that looked just like when sipping some rosé on their roof top porch. It felt like I was actually there.

I really can't remember that feeling in FSX. At all. Ever.

The flight you described is not an issue, a rather remote area in a small plane - that's easy on your hardware. Take an airliner to a big hub and you will need a lot of Rosé to deal with the results.

The game is cpu bottleneck as you go up the video card food chain. Once you hit the 2080Ti, there is no modern cpu that can handle the numbers of draw calls the game requires to drive the GPU. This has been a know fact for a while. The only solution is DX12 and DLSS. It's on the roadmap so soon we should have some relief. The new 3000 series RTX will make the problem only worst. 

Having the same issues with stuttering myself. According to a hot forum thread on the official board certain configurations seem to perform horribly. Sky lake and Kaby lake CPUs coupled with 10xx series Nvidia gpus seems to perform particularly bad.

2 minutes ago, TheRandomGuy said:

Having the same issues with stuttering myself. According to a hot forum thread on the official board certain configurations seem to perform horribly. Sky lake and Kaby lake CPUs coupled with 10xx series Nvidia gpus seems to perform particularly bad.

Cool, those are the most widely used components, great job, Asobo! Thanks for that clue, interesting. You have a link?

4 minutes ago, fogboundturtle said:

The game is cpu bottleneck as you go up the video card food chain. Once you hit the 2080Ti, there is no modern cpu that can handle the numbers of draw calls the game requires to drive the GPU. This has been a know fact for a while. The only solution is DX12 and DLSS. It's on the roadmap so soon we should have some relief. The new 3000 series RTX will make the problem only worst. 

DX12 and DLSS, I fear, is months if not years away. 

18 minutes ago, captain420 said:

I'm starting to get the feeling that Colonel X is really Austin Meyers in disguise.

I know what you mean, but he’s equally prickly on the XP forums, repeatedly attacking freeware for how bad it looks. 
 

He’s just one of that big group of people that each think they are the lone voice of reason, bravely battling the sheeple’s propaganda-swallowing when actually they’re just being dramatic and contrarian.

1 hour ago, Colonel X said:

Bashing lol. People really have an issue with cold, hard facts nowadays.

No, they just have a problem with your thrusting your agenda in every possible thread you can. We get it, you get wet dreams using xplane.

10 minutes ago, Colonel X said:

The flight you described is not an issue, a rather remote area in a small plane - that's easy on your hardware. Take an airliner to a big hub and you will need a lot of Rosé to deal with the results.

Well - my glass of rosé is always half full so I can do that 😉 I flew an Airbus low over NY yesterday and agree that it gets a bit taxing on the hardware from inside the cockpit. Got sub 30 FPS but with the incredible amount of details I do not think that it ruined the flight at all. Really enjoyed it. That on 1440p with high-end settings (4790k. 16Gb Ram and RTX280)

Edited August 19, 20205 yr by mazex

Well im happy, 50 fps on average in 1080p everything on ultra, renderingscale 130.

I7 cpu and a 1080ti 16 gb ram

Edited August 19, 20205 yr by OHN767

 

3 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

I know what you mean, but he’s equally prickly on the XP forums, repeatedly attacking freeware for how bad it looks. 
 

He’s just one of that big group of people that each think they are the lone voice of reason, bravely battling the sheeple’s propaganda-swallowing when actually they’re just being dramatic and contrarian.

Like the analysis, really. You lose it a bit at the end, but lone voice of reason, bravely battling... that was really on point! 

I haven't acquired my excellent forum reputation for no reason. 

 

7 minutes ago, ahsmatt7 said:

No, they just have a problem with your thrusting your agenda in every possible thread you can. We get it, you get wet dreams using xplane.

My agenda... right. I deleted X-Plane before I installed FS. If I have an agenda, it's point at the word not allowed once I see it. And I do see it.

11 minutes ago, scotchegg said:

I know what you mean, but he’s equally prickly on the XP forums, repeatedly attacking freeware for how bad it looks. 
 

He’s just one of that big group of people that each think they are the lone voice of reason, bravely battling the sheeple’s propaganda-swallowing when actually they’re just being dramatic and contrarian.

He's honestly one of the biggest tools I've seen any aviation relates forum in a long time.

I bet he waits in silence in the back of an airliner hoping the captain would come to him for help and he would be the hero of the day. He would say his countless hours on xplane is what helped him land the plane. Hahahah oh boy.

3 minutes ago, Colonel X said:

My agenda... right. I deleted X-Plane before I installed FS. If I have an agenda, it's point at the word not allowed once I see it. And I do see it.

Now that was a dumb decision...

Edited August 19, 20205 yr by ahsmatt7