August 24, 20205 yr Moderator Was in stable flight at FL22 in the Citation and went into active pause to check something. Image froze as usual but as I was checking other things I noticed the airspeed just kept dropping. When I came out of active pause, I was in an immediate stall and dropping like a stone. Ultimately recovered but it also took a minute or two to get the AP functioning properly again. Every time I switched it back on the nose went straight up and I had no control authority. Ultimately got it squared away and rest of flight was uneventful. Not a particularly good experience, IMHO. Still like a lot about MSFS2020 but keep finding little loose ends here and there that need fixing. Will be interested to see what's in the first patch. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
August 24, 20205 yr Yeah I don't know what they intended with Active Pause but it definitely doesn't seem to perform the way it was described as. I ended up binding two keys to the hard Pause and "unpause" commands (there's no toggle). They show up separate from the one bound to Esc in the bindings and have no bindings by default. They allow you to pause like Esc but stay in the "world view" like Active Pause. AMD Ryzen 9950X3D | Asrock X870E Taichi | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 w/EK waterblock | Full Custom Loop Cooling | Corsair Dominator Titanium DDR5-6000 | Samsung & WD NVME/SSDs | Phanteks Enthoo 719 | Seasonic Vertex Gold 1200W | Keychron Q5 Max | Corsiar Scimitar Elite SE Wireless | Honeycomb Alpha and Bravo | Logitech Pro Flight Pedals | VKB Gladiator Pro NXT L&R handed | MiniCockpit MiniFCU | Alienware AW34DWF | Asus PG279Q | Win 11 Pro
August 24, 20205 yr 38 minutes ago, vgbaron said: Was in stable flight at FL22 in the Citation and went into active pause to check something. Image froze as usual but as I was checking other things I noticed the airspeed just kept dropping. When I came out of active pause, I was in an immediate stall and dropping like a stone. Ultimately recovered but it also took a minute or two to get the AP functioning properly again. Every time I switched it back on the nose went straight up and I had no control authority. Ultimately got it squared away and rest of flight was uneventful. Not a particularly good experience, IMHO. Still like a lot about MSFS2020 but keep finding little loose ends here and there that need fixing. Will be interested to see what's in the first patch. Vic Same thing happened to me, but I think it might be because I had the autopilot on. I use active pause a lot - whenever passing over something interesting to hop in the drone camera for a bit. Most of my flying has been hand flown til this point, but started using the AP in the Cessna 172 lately. When I hit active pause, the AP went nuts and kept trying to trim as if I was in a stall. When I came back off of pause the plane started to plummet and for the rest of the flight the AP was useless. Was getting ready to report a bug on zendesk.
August 24, 20205 yr 5 minutes ago, andyjohnston.net said: Active Pause needs work. So does every other feature in this program. Troll.
August 24, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, vgbaron said: Was in stable flight at FL22 in the Citation and went into active pause to check something. Image froze as usual but as I was checking other things I noticed the airspeed just kept dropping. When I came out of active pause, I was in an immediate stall and dropping like a stone. Ultimately recovered but it also took a minute or two to get the AP functioning properly again. Every time I switched it back on the nose went straight up and I had no control authority. Ultimately got it squared away and rest of flight was uneventful. Not a particularly good experience, IMHO. Still like a lot about MSFS2020 but keep finding little loose ends here and there that need fixing. Will be interested to see what's in the first patch. Vic This has been known for a while, but I have never considered it a bug, just a way that this sim works and something to be mindful of when using that feature. In fact, when asked about it quite awhile ago, Asobo confirmed it to be working as expected, and advised not using the feature unless one was in level flight before doing so. There was also a caution about using it with live weather active. Edited August 24, 20205 yr by HiFlyer We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
August 24, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, vgbaron said: Was in stable flight at FL22 in the Citation and went into active pause to check something. Image froze as usual but as I was checking other things I noticed the airspeed just kept dropping. When I came out of active pause, I was in an immediate stall and dropping like a stone. Ultimately recovered but it also took a minute or two to get the AP functioning properly again. Every time I switched it back on the nose went straight up and I had no control authority. Ultimately got it squared away and rest of flight was uneventful. Not a particularly good experience, IMHO. Still like a lot about MSFS2020 but keep finding little loose ends here and there that need fixing. Will be interested to see what's in the first patch. Vic Should post your concerns and observations on the MS Zendesk to get noticed. Based on things I see on there resolved issues list it’s pretty high level stuff and not much of what we are talking about on this forum. Joe Joe (Southern California) System: I9-9900KS @5.1Ghz/ Corsair H115i / Gigabyte A-390 Master / EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Hybrid w 11Gb / Trident 32Gb DDR4-3200 C14 / Evo 970 2Tb M.2 / Samsung 40inch TV 40ku6300 4K w/ Native 30 hz capability / Corsair AX850 PS / VKB Gunfighter Pro / Virpil MongoosT-50 Throttle / MFG Crosswind Pedals / LINDA, VoiceAttack, ChasePlane, AIG AI, MCE, FFTF, Pilot2ATC, HP Reverb G2
August 24, 20205 yr Author Moderator 26 minutes ago, HiFlyer said: This has been known for a while, but I have never considered it a bug, just a way that this sim works and something to be mindful of when using that feature. In fact, when asked about it quite awhile ago, Asobo confirmed it to be working as expected, and advised not using the feature unless one was in level flight before doing so. There was also a caution about using it with live weather active. Well, let's see - I was in level flight, I was using real weather and I did have the AP on. Two out of three to fail. I prefer the old "P" key. I think there are a lot of undocumented things to get used to in this sim. Trial and error takes a while. Vic RIG#1 - I9 14900K MSI Pro z790 RTX 5070Ti 40" 4K Monitor 3840x2160
August 24, 20205 yr 6 minutes ago, vgbaron said: Well, let's see - I was in level flight, I was using real weather and I did have the AP on. Two out of three to fail. I prefer the old "P" key. I think there are a lot of undocumented things to get used to in this sim. Trial and error takes a while. Vic Someone also suggests you have to adjust your thrust and wait until the speed settles, before you deactivate active pause. The flight engine is still running during the pause, and when you un-pause, all those effects that were accumulating while you were "paused" can hit at once....... We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
August 24, 20205 yr Reported as a bug one month ago. Status has changed to solved today, probably it's now on their internal bug/to-do list. My understanding of an active pause is that all calculations/renderings like traffic, sound, environment and weather -except the own aircraft simulation- would continue in the background. Regards, Sebastian
August 24, 20205 yr 2 minutes ago, fly_edds said: Status has changed to solved today, probably it's now on their internal bug/to-do list. There's also the possibility they've simply checked it off and disagree that it's a bug that needs to be worked on. I've seen that happen as well. I guess we'll find out. We are all connected..... To each other, biologically...... To the Earth, chemically...... To the rest of the Universe atomically. Devons rig Intel Core i5 13600K @ 5.1GHz / G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Series Ram 64GB / GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC 12G Graphics Card / Sound Blaster Z / Meta Quest 2 VR Headset / Klipsch® Promedia 2.1 Computer Speakers / ASUS ROG SWIFT PG279Q ‑ 27" IPS LED Monitor ‑ QHD / 1x Samsung SSD 850 EVO 500GB / 2x Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB / 1x Samsung - 970 EVO Plus 2TB NVMe / 1x Samsung 980 NVMe 1TB / 2 other regular hd's with up to 10 terabyte capacity / Windows 11 Pro 64-bit / Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX Motherboard LGA 1700 DDR5
August 24, 20205 yr 56 minutes ago, SeanMo said: Troll. The observation was correct. Just because you disagree is no need to label someone. MSFS has lots of potential, but needs plenty of work. David Porrett
August 24, 20205 yr 1 hour ago, vgbaron said: Was in stable flight at FL22 in the Citation and went into active pause to check something. Image froze as usual but as I was checking other things I noticed the airspeed just kept dropping. When I came out of active pause, I was in an immediate stall and dropping like a stone. Ultimately recovered but it also took a minute or two to get the AP functioning properly again. Every time I switched it back on the nose went straight up and I had no control authority. Ultimately got it squared away and rest of flight was uneventful. Not a particularly good experience, IMHO. Still like a lot about MSFS2020 but keep finding little loose ends here and there that need fixing. Will be interested to see what's in the first patch. Vic I can attest to this happening across the whole fleet. It's happened to me in the Bonanza loads; mostly when I'm trying to crawl my way to altitude and only just being able to keep a 300ft per minute climb! 😉 Flying since the early days of 386’s! 😀 Web developer, sailor, nerd. Contributor to the G36 Improvement Project PC Specs: Intel i9-9900K on a Aorus Z390 // Pro Wifi motherboard // 32GB Corsair Vengeance Ram, 2x16, 3200mhz DDR4 // RTX3070 Gigabyte, Eagle OC 8GB // WD Blue SN550 (2400) NVMe SSD // 2x LG QHD Monitors, (27QN600) Discord Username: CaptMatto#7935
August 24, 20205 yr I hit active pause today, had to step away. When I came back the aircraft had crashed.
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