1 minute ago, kingm56 said:

I suggest you go read RR comments regarding the capabilities of MSFS,

I am not interested in your suggestion but thanks anyway.

Aerosoft is selling the boxed version of MSFS and is very much in bed with MS/Asobo. They are leveraging their company's future on that one platform. So of course he will spin it to Aersoft's favor any chance he can get. They have mediocre planes that cannot compete with PMDG/FSL, Leonardo, etc... that fans of study level sims will never buy. There scenery is often littered with bad optimization and needing many patches. They make their money I'm sure reselling, similar to Simmarket. Aerosoft IMO was always second rate and frankly, don't care about him or his company.  

Edited September 13, 20205 yr by B777ER

1 hour ago, GSalden said:

AS currently is helping Asobo with making an enhanced SDK. 

Well, then we are all screwed judging my the bug riddled junk Aerosoft put out that need multiple patches every single time. 

46 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

 

"Very simple looking clouds"...that absolutely destroys any payware add-ons on the competition.

 

😵

That's your opinion, IMHO Active Sky is far better looking, with the advantage that live weather really Works, it isn't locked to 225/3

Like always. People who come on here to rip P3d are only wanting to convince themselves they have fully moved on to msfs. If they had. They wouldn’t enter a P3d forum again.  They would be looking only to msfs. This is very similar to stalking your ex girlfriend on social media. If you had moved on you wouldn’t be interested. The bugs in msfs are huge. Hope they get fixed. But they aren’t. Flying a Cessna 152 vfr gets boring very fast. 

7 minutes ago, shivers9 said:

I am not interested in your suggestion but thanks anyway.

So...you prefer to remain word not allowed on the subject?  If true, whey do feel compelled to state opinion as fact when you clearly have no desire to educate yourself on the subject matter?  

Just now, micstatic said:

Like always. People who come on here to rip P3d are only wanting to convince themselves they have fully moved on to msfs. If they had. They wouldn’t enter a P3d forum again.  They would be looking only to msfs. This is very similar to stalking your ex girlfriend on social media. If you had moved on you wouldn’t be interested. The bugs in msfs are huge. Hope they get fixed. But they aren’t. Flying a Cessna 152 vfr gets boring very fast. 

Does anyone actually navigate to the forum via headers?  I doubt they do; instead, I suggest the majority clicks a link on the front page without regard to the subject location.

I simply don't understand why some simmers are salty about progress...

10 minutes ago, kingm56 said:

I suggest you go read RR comments regarding the capabilities of MSFS, as it relates to performance.  Warning - it doesn't fit your negative narrative.  Also, you continue to conflate opinion with facts; concerning the latter, Aerosoft is a business with access to actual market data. Other third-party vendors have their own data; to that point, I suspect you'll see other large vendors announce similar proclamations.  I highly suspect you'll never see a PMDG aircraft released for P3D again; like Aerosoft, they seem enamored with the capabilities and potential of the new simulator.  It should also be noted the Asabo patches have been timely and poinient; this simulator is maturing faster than previous renditions.  You remind me of the simmer who swore 3D panels were just a fad, too much of a performance hit, and would never last. 

"The PMDG 737NGu is leaps and bounds ahead of the nine year old NGX model you had been using prior to release of NGXu. You will see yet another generational leap forward with the model being used for the new PMDG 737NG3 for MSFS in large part due to the dramatic increase in what the simulation is capable of supporting in terms of model detail, resolution, textures and lighting. The NG3 flight deck is factors larger in terms of polygons and texture size, yet provides no discernible negative effect on the performance of the simulation."

 

Not one complex jetliner has been tested in MSFS as there is simply no supportive SDK for it...

So everyone who claims that their ac has no performance without being able to test it : all marketing talk..

The only ac that might fly without too much performance loss is Prosim as everything is calculated outside of Fs program.

Several at Prosim have converted their P3D model to a FSX model and tried it in MSFS. Performance was not bad but also not superb. 
 

You simply cannot have all detail + AC with complex systems + high FPS in whatever Fs you are using,

Its all about balance and in MSFS the focus is on eyecandy, which is a good thing.

Just now, aguiar said:

That's your opinion, IMHO Active Sky is far better looking, with the advantage that live weather really Works, it isn't locked to 225/3

I haven't had issues with MSFS's weather in the last days so that seems to be mostly fixed.

As for the clouds, if you like to be fooled by sprites, it is your chice. Do yourself a favor and turn EA on when using P3D v5.

Just now, GSalden said:

Not one complex jetliner has been tested in MSFS as there is simply no supportive SDK for it...

So everyone who claims that their ac has no performance without being able to test it : all marketing talk..

The only ac that might fly without too much performance loss is Prosim as everything is calculated outside of Fs program.

Several at Prosim have converted their P3D model to a FSX model and tried it in MSFS. Performance was not bad but also not superb. 
 

You simply cannot have all detail + AC with complex systems + high FPS in whatever Fs you are using,

Its all about balance and in MSFS the focus is on eyecandy, which is a good thing.

So, he's a liar?  The pictures located on their forum are fake?  Is the Majestic Dash 8 a lite aircraft?  The PMDG 747 seems to work fine in P3D V4....  

43 minutes ago, shivers9 said:

Bingo!! It has been very entertaining just watching as MS have ran this amazing Con job for a year now. As things appear to be at the moment it sounds like MS2020 is truely the "Sim of the Gods" except it just needs 1. Updated Sat scenery...what they have is 7-10 years old. 2. Better designed aircraft that dont wag their tails. 3 An add on weather program that actually works. 4. replace thousands of airports that are pure garbage with incorrect taxiways and signs. 5. Some way to have and use actual Nav data. I could go on but you get the point. All of this stuff will be using computer cycles and as that happens, then there goes the FPS and performance. Nothing new here. It all boils down to the old saying...they are trying to stuff 20 lbs of flight sim into a 5lb bag. 

MSFS has been out for about a month, I think the devs deserve to have 3/6 months to iron out the major bugs don't you think?

2 minutes ago, GCBraun said:

I haven't had issues with MSFS's weather in the last days so that seems to be mostly fixed.

As for the clouds, if you like to be fooled by sprites, it is your chice. Do yourself a favor and turn EA on when using P3D v5.

Active Sky also has nothing to do with the 'appearance'; all it does is interrupt/inject weather.  Weather interruption will be fixed in the next patch; so, I'd compare the two at that time.  

2 minutes ago, micstatic said:

Like always. People who come on here to rip P3d are only wanting to convince themselves they have fully moved on to msfs. If they had. They wouldn’t enter a P3d forum again.  They would be looking only to msfs. This is very similar to stalking your ex girlfriend on social media. If you had moved on you wouldn’t be interested. The bugs in msfs are huge. Hope they get fixed. But they aren’t. Flying a Cessna 152 vfr gets boring very fast. 

Perfect!! That is exactly what I wanted to say but I am just a Red Neck and could not put it together with out using a lot of words that those Mod's here don't like! LOL!!

Here is the test to solve the whole debate. If there was never even one more "fix" for Prepar3d, I could probably use it for the next 5 years and never get bored.

The test...Can you say that about MS2020? Just Yes or NO?

2 minutes ago, kingm56 said:

Active Sky also has nothing to do with the 'appearance'; all it does is interrupt/inject weather.  Weather interruption will be fixed in the next patch; so, I'd compare the two at that time.  

Yes it has if you use ASCA. I assume that this was what he was refering to otherwise it makes no sense, considering that the discussion was about clouds and not weather.

Again, I am doing a trip around the world (currently in the PNW region) and have not experienced issues with the weather in the last days. I believe I am entitled to making that observation.

1 minute ago, shivers9 said:

Perfect!! That is exactly what I wanted to say but I am just a Red Neck and could not put it together with out using a lot of words that those Mod's here don't like! LOL!!

Here is the test to solve the whole debate. If there was never even one more "fix" for Prepar3d, I could probably use it for the next 5 years and never get bored.

The test...Can you say that about MS2020? Just Yes or NO?

So, you're comparing a simulator that's been in active development for a decade with a simulator relased weeks ago?  Do you think you'll be able to make that statement in 6 months...I doubt you will. Also, stop acting like default P3D is a comprehensive, or even adequate simulator.  In truth, default P3D is terrible and not even in the same ballpark/state as MSFS.  In a year, I suspect simmers with your opinion will change their perspectives. After all, we've been down this road before...