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Active Pause causing the plane to trim

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Approach to KDSM today in the Diamond, I had to pause it for a work call and when unpaused, the AP became completely unstable and the DA started to trim up without any kind of control. Only way out was quitting the flight. Anyone had this happen before?

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Jacek G.

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Happens all the time to me I do not use active pause I just use the esc key. Another bug that will get fixed when we get our japan scenery.

Denwagg

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Ah yes, Active Pause - the feature no one knew we needed, and yet here it is! Yes, I've seen all sorts of weirdness when using active pause

Chris

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1 minute ago, Denwagg said:

when we get our japan scenery.

Which will also be bugged. bahaha.

Thanks for the tip on the esc key, never thought about it.

Jacek G.

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Nightmare at 20,000 feet.

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Active  Pause is the  Twilight Zone...

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if you prefer, you can also have the 'standard pause' like in FSX/P3D, that's a little bit better than the ESC key because you can still look around the cockpit or at the scenery with the cameras while in pause mode. The standard pause will not cause problems with AP.

to enable it you just need to assign a key to the pause / unpause function (for example 'P' and 'SHIFT-P')

- set pause ON

- set pause OFF

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Which brings up the problem with "yokes". They have a few buttons available.

A typical stick has about 20 (4 hats =16), and 4 buttons (side, thumb, pinkie, trigger). The other HOTAS (throttle) has roughly the same.

Using the shift key (trigger) you can double up on a button. Pause on/off, flaps up/down, zoom in/out, affirm/deny, cycle forward/backward, etc.

Plenty available for a pause/unpause button. This is why I will never use a yoke.

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active pause...  prior to toggling it off, fully cycle all of your controller movements and then leave them in similar position to where they were before you pressed the active pause.  Know issue.

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2 hours ago, Fielder said:

Which brings up the problem with "yokes". They have a few buttons available.

A typical stick has about 20 (4 hats =16), and 4 buttons (side, thumb, pinkie, trigger). The other HOTAS (throttle) has roughly the same.

Using the shift key (trigger) you can double up on a button. Pause on/off, flaps up/down, zoom in/out, affirm/deny, cycle forward/backward, etc.

Plenty available for a pause/unpause button. This is why I will never use a yoke.

 

The consumer yokes like the Honeycomb tend to add a lot of switches and functionality to the Yoke base as well as whatever is on the Yoke itself.  The better Yokes like the Yoko or the Fulcrum (I just pre-ordered one of those https://www.fulcrumsim.com/ )  ironically though several times the price tend to assume yo are using them with a simpit and do not add superflous functionality.

What a darn good life when you got wife like Honeycomb! -Jimmy Rogers

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1 hour ago, Fielder said:

What a darn good life when you got wife like Honeycomb! -Jimmy Rogers

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lol, Honeycomb should use Jimmy Rodgers in their promotions 😄

Honeycomb are probably the cheapest of the reasonable yokes. Though if you can afford it the new Fulcrum Yoke looks way better.

With joysticks you can get a good combat stick for quite a reasonable price but in yokes the low end options like CH and Thrustmaster/Saitek, whilst certainly better than no Yoke at all, have issues.

6 hours ago, Fielder said:

Nightmare at 20,000 feet.

Hehe.....In that last pic...there should be a chat bubble from Shatner's saying "Spock, raise the shields!"  I know....Sulu would typically raise the shields, but he is turned back in the pic, as if he's yelling to Spock. 🙂  Man... I gotta get out more!

As far as "Active Pause"... to me the worst new feature in the sim!   Set up the normal pause/un-pause like @Bad_T shows.  Too bad its not a toggle anymore

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Steve Dra
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2 hours ago, Steve Dra said:

Hehe.....In that last pic...there should be a chat bubble from Shatner's saying "Spock, raise the shields!"  I know....Sulu would typically raise the shields, but he is turned back in the pic, as if he's yelling to Spock. 🙂  Man... I gotta get out more!

As far as "Active Pause"... to me the worst new feature in the sim!   Set up the normal pause/un-pause like @Bad_T shows.  Too bad its not a toggle anymore

The basic idea of active pause - that you can stop flight and set your radios and localiser and whatever without ending up way off the glide slope or CFIT into a local hillside (as opposed to normal pause that freezes everything) is actually a good one. The problem was the implementation was pretty dreadful.

Life's no joke when you gotta yoke like Honeycomb.

 

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