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ATC Gave Me A Speed Restriction!!!???

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ATC gave me a speed restriction, “Daher 930 keep speed below 210 knots.”

I was, wha? Wha?

Never has default ATC given me a speed restriction!

Is this new? Anyone experienced it before? Am I hearing things?

I was on  IFR approach into KISM descending to 2000 ft from FL110.

Below 10,000 ft. and at 243 knots so I wasn’t busting 250 under 10.

I’m extremely happy 😃— but I’m still not sure if it’s real...🤔

Edited by Cmcollazo71

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Got one once also (they are common in high traffic areas e.g. LA, NY etc.) and was as surprised as you were. Ignored it and flew to limits shockingly not rear ending anyone 🙂

Also noticed the other night it kept re-calibrating descent altitudes that made more sense and not trying to vector into terrain. They must have made some adjustments....

Edited by Flyfaster_MTN002

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34 minutes ago, Cmcollazo71 said:

ATC gave me a speed restriction, “Daher 930 keep speed below 210 knots.”

I was, wha? Wha?

Never has default ATC given me a speed restriction!

Is this new? Anyone experienced it before? Am I hearing things?

I was on  IFR approach into KISM descending to 2000 ft from FL110.

Below 10,000 ft. and at 243 knots so I wasn’t busting 250 under 10.

I’m extremely happy 😃— but I’m still not sure if it’s real...🤔

regularly happens to me in the UK...   when approaching a busy civilian airport like Heathrow..  regularly get keep speed below 250 knots...  when coming into a military airbase in the UK  quite often get  keep speed below 180 knots..  some regional airports have a 210 knot restriction on them....  all correct and have validated some of them on the actual charts.

Generally it's to help make spacing between arrivals at busy airports easier.  🙂

As it happens.. have a chart of Paris handy and that shows the speed restriction below 11,000  rather than 10,000 on one approach  and a speed of 210 at 18,000 on a different approach.  I have generally noticed that the inbuilt ATC is pretty good at handling the speed restrictions when I compare to the charts.

I think it's much more common in Europe and especially in the UK 🙂

 

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Graham

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Is there a speed restriction on the plate for the approach you were using?

Speed restriction are usually per airspace

http://www.jeppesen.com/download/aopa/jul-aopa.pdf

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33 minutes ago, Cmcollazo71 said:

ATC gave me a speed restriction, “Daher 930 keep speed below 210 knots.”

I was, wha? Wha?

Never has default ATC given me a speed restriction!

Is this new? Anyone experienced it before? Am I hearing things?

I was on  IFR approach into KISM descending to 2000 ft from FL110.

Below 10,000 ft. and at 243 knots so I wasn’t busting 250 under 10.

I’m extremely happy 😃— but I’m still not sure if it’s real...🤔

Speed restrictions are real per ATC request or airspace requirements 

Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASEL

My System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSD

Put my hands on (pic/dual/given)

7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22

 

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46 minutes ago, N7470 said:

Is there a speed restriction on the plate for the approach you were using?

No, no plate  I just set up IFR flight using default from in sim flight planner.

42 minutes ago, sd_flyer said:

Speed restrictions are real per ATC request or airspace requirements 

I was aware they are real things in real life... my incredulity was that I had never heard one in sim...

51 minutes ago, Moria15 said:

regularly happens to me in the UK...   when approaching a busy civilian airport like Heathrow..  regularly get keep speed below 250 knots...  when coming into a military airbase in the UK  quite often get  keep speed below 180 knots..  some regional airports have a 210 knot restriction on them....  all correct and have validated some of them on the actual charts.

But as Moria15 has said other plates are showing correct speeds.

1 hour ago, Flyfaster_MTN002 said:

They must have made some adjustments...

So, I think this is new. Anyone ever have this happen using FSX or P3D?

Edited by Cmcollazo71

Lol folks he is talking about real as in real in sim, not real life. You guys are giving examples of speed restrictions in real life.

8 minutes ago, jpe828 said:

Lol folks he is talking about real as in real in sim, not real life. You guys are giving examples of speed restrictions in real life.

Lol i thought it was just me🙂 The OP is just pointing out that this is not usual

with default ATC. Still gonna get an ATC add-on though despite the welcome upgrade

I laugh every time I get one of these while flying a 172.  🤣

It's pretty realistic, I would say it's something to be happy about.

Happy about? more like over the moon. This is a huge development

in Microsoft air traffic control procedures 

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58 minutes ago, mtr75 said:

It's pretty realistic, I would say it's something to be happy about.

That’s what it was unbelief and a pleasant surprise all at once...

54 minutes ago, icewater5 said:

Happy about? more like over the moon. This is a huge development

in Microsoft air traffic control procedures 

...exactly, hence my post I just had to share the good news!😃

Speed restrictions have been in the ATC prior to the last upgrade.  Got them quite a bit flying the A320 on arrivals.  They are set per the restrictions (both altitude and speed) for various approaches.  Have had them in the software for awhile now....and no, P3D did not have them in the stock ATC.

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11 minutes ago, bszuch said:

Have had them in the software for awhile now....and no, P3D did not have them in the stock ATC.

OK so I’m not just hearing things....😜

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