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First Thoughts on Snow

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Overall I like the effect, it will sure beat flying over green terrain in the northern Winter.  I read complaints earlier about having green trees sticking out like a sore thumb over the snow...I'm seeing trees with snow scattered on them so that looks pretty good to me.

One tweak I'd like to see is to buy some virtual snow plows both for the airfields and city streets.  Both are fully covered in snow as show in the shots below.  These fully snow covered runways are going to be hard to find on approach.

I wonder if they tweaked how snow/icing impacts flight dynamics?  I tried to do a flight out of Calgary-Springbank (CYBW) where it is currently snowing.  Upon loading my Bonanza was covered in snow.  Deicing on, I attempted to take off and the aircraft would barely climb.  Aerodynamic impacts of icing?  More experimentation needed.  I know it's a somewhat high altitude airport but I should have been able to climb with a lightly loaded Bonanza.

Here are a few shots at Revelstoke to illustrate the trees and snow covered airports/streets as mentioned.

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If you look really closely you can see the runway markings below me

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Dave

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my first thoughts on the snow : looks good .

Ill be really worry about the snow  if we was talking about a snow plowing simulator but thats not the case . 

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Very nice!  Good job Asobo 👍

Matthew S

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Interestingly I’m currently flying out of Iqaluit CYFB and the runway is clear, though the taxiways are snow covered.  It would appear there is some snow clearance algorithm going on in the background for some airports (maybe just larger ones?)

Dave

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10 minutes ago, regis9 said:

It would appear there is some snow clearance algorithm going on in the background for some airports (maybe just larger ones?)

It seems to depend on the material the surfaces are set to.

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Snow plows working the runways and taxiways would be cool.

 

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16 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

It seems to depend on the material the surfaces are set to.

Interesting, both Revelstoke and Iqaluit (the extend of my snow travels so far) are asphalt runways, though the Canadian Flight Supplement does note that Revelstoke has limited winter maintenance...that has to be a coincidence though.

Dave

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16 minutes ago, regis9 said:

Interesting, both Revelstoke and Iqaluit (the extend of my snow travels so far) are asphalt runways, though the Canadian Flight Supplement does note that Revelstoke has limited winter maintenance...that has to be a coincidence though.

Interesting, I'm just going by my observations when changing the runway material when editing a scenery.

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I wonder if it's a combination of runway type and maybe length?  Maybe even snow depth?

Dave

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I flew up to Thunder Bay YQT from Ottawa and ForeFlight said -SN 3SM OVC006 and there was no snow any where, not even on the ground. 

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12 minutes ago, fakeflyer737 said:

I flew up to Thunder Bay YQT from Ottawa and ForeFlight said -SN 3SM OVC006 and there was no snow any where, not even on the ground. 

Weather is still based on forecasting, not METAR.

We are joking about snow plows... but seriously... in my area some of my local fields are hard to even find now because they are snow covered. Similar to Revelstoke shown here. Its a real issue... I like the effect too. Looks good. There are a few oddities... like if you find rock face cliffs, the snow texture over them looks very odd. Also, I see Ice in the ocean, where there is never ice.

2 hours ago, regis9 said:

Overall I like the effect,

If you look really closely you can see the runway markings below me

I just went to Hibbing MN using live weather where there is snow on the ground under cloudy skies and finding no snow... 😶  What am I missing here?  I was expecting like all other FS versions before this one that during this time of the year you can just go to a place like Fargo and see winter not wait for actual snow fall for the ground to be covered.  Again I must be missing something.

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36 minutes ago, Dillon said:

I just went to Hibbing MN using live weather where there is snow on the ground under cloudy skies and finding no snow... 😶  What am I missing here?  I was expecting like all other FS versions before this one that during this time of the year you can just go to a place like Fargo and see winter not wait for actual snow fall for the ground to be covered.  Again I must be missing something.

Snow is based on their weather provider, Meteoblue. It's not on and off like previous Microsoft Flight Sims.

According to Meteoblue's data, there should be snow on the ground at Hibbing. Guess there are some kinks in the system.

https://www.meteoblue.com/en/weather/webmap/beta/range-regional-airport_united-states-of-america_5021092#coords=11.17/47.3967/-92.8356&map=snowDepth~hourly~auto~sfc~none

Maybe it's not showing snow under a certain height. I suggest submitting a bug report on Zendesk, show in sim screenshots compared to the Meteoblue data.

 

Edit: i found a tiny bit of snow to the north west
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One thing I noticed is that live weather has to be working for the snow cover to show up.  I started a second flight without restarting the sim and had no real weather, hence no snow.

Dave

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