Great work by Nico..Have a look.   https://www.lekseecon.nl/

https://ibb.co/Bckf589

https://ibb.co/48x1qFQ

 https://ibb.co/Q63DBgq

https://ibb.co/1RsXsnh
 https://ibb.co/frr4VMJ

https://ibb.co/kM4VnQz
 https://ibb.co/L5JgcKD

Eh, not a fan since it doesn't use the sim's ATC or the AI system, so they kind a just glide around.

Edited February 20, 20215 yr by Tuskin38

6 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

Eh, not a fan since it doesn't use the sim's ATC or the AI system, so they kind a just glide around.

Is there one that does that doesn't have random liveries?

1 minute ago, knich said:

Is there one that does that doesn't have random liveries?

Not yet, but there are people working on it. Some people have also converted FSX models for their personal use.

Edited February 20, 20215 yr by Tuskin38

1 minute ago, Tuskin38 said:

Not yet, but there are people working on it. Some people have also converted FSX models for their personal use.

In the meantime....

1 hour ago, knich said:

In the meantime....

I just use the default models with custom liveries.

https://imgur.com/a/kptcVCS

Don't ask me where to get them, the mod that added them doesn't exist anymore.

other aircraft will spawn if they have the proper liveries with ICAO codes. Frontier A320Neo for example I see spawn all the time. I've seen 747-8s when they match real traffic, and have seen a couple 787s.

Edited February 20, 20215 yr by Tuskin38

Looks good.

3 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

Eh, not a fan since it doesn't use the sim's ATC or the AI system, so they kind a just glide around.

Actually they don't just glide around, they are on real life flight plans. You can even sit at an airport and watch traffic that will be the same traffic you see on flightaware. There is a slight time-lag from position on flightaware...about 30 seconds if I recall correctly.

You are correct that they aren't controlled by sim ATC, nor is sim ATC aware of the traffic, but it is as close to real life as you can get.

Once AIG has models and liveries available you'll actually see the real aircraft model in the correct livery on the real life flight plan in almost real time.

5 hours ago, knich said:

Great work by Nico..Have a look.   https://www.lekseecon.nl/

https://ibb.co/Bckf589

https://ibb.co/48x1qFQ

 https://ibb.co/Q63DBgq

https://ibb.co/1RsXsnh
 https://ibb.co/frr4VMJ

https://ibb.co/kM4VnQz
 https://ibb.co/L5JgcKD

PSXT + RT is the closest you will get to real air traffic

I use it in P3Dv5 and imho it’s a must have for great immersion.

There are multiple ATC channels online (larger airports)  where you can here real ATC talk to real ac that you see inside Fs...

Fs AI ac/ATC is not realistic at all 

 

7 hours ago, GSalden said:

PSXT + RT is the closest you will get to real air traffic

I use it in P3Dv5 and imho it’s a must have for great immersion.

There are multiple ATC channels online (larger airports)  where you can here real ATC talk to real ac that you see inside Fs...

Fs AI ac/ATC is not realistic at all 

 

Yes..that's right.  The airlines in the photos are based on real world schedules. The program actual learns the correct parking positions and liveries...assuming you have the correct plane model and livery installed.  If not, it can find a close representative that actually flies in to that airport.

You can set setting to 100% match down to zero.  

Because of some of the limitations with I think SDK right now, it is not perfect (in terms of plane behavior) but it works pretty darn well IMO.  It is a great alternative if you are tired of random airlines showing.  There is much more to the addon but that was my intent in posting.  Nico has worked hard on this program and deserves some recognition.

Tuskin's photo looks interesting too but no idea what program was matching liveries.  I know IVAO has many liveries and models but not matching park placement and real world schedule in MSFS. 

1 hour ago, knich said:

Yes..that's right.  The airlines in the photos are based on real world schedules. The program actual learns the correct parking positions and liveries...assuming you have the correct plane model and livery installed.  If not, it can find a close representative that actually flies in to that airport.

You can set setting to 100% match down to zero.  

Because of some of the limitations with I think SDK right now, it is not perfect (in terms of plane behavior) but it works pretty darn well IMO.  It is a great alternative if you are tired of random airlines showing.  There is much more to the addon but that was my intent in posting.  Nico has worked hard on this program and deserves some recognition.

Tuskin's photo looks interesting too but no idea what program was matching liveries.  I know IVAO has many liveries and models but not matching park placement and real world schedule in MSFS. 

This is an old subject which was disscussed earlier. Normally, it is possible to use Ivao Csl models and liveries for matching PSX, perfectly with real life traffic and models/liveries.  We know how to do it. The same thing was done for Vatsim traffic, as well.

But, some collegues  (not sure from Ivao or not ) are mentioning that; using Ivao models for other apps is breaking the rights of EULA. So, we are not able to disscuss about how it is done, here.

Additionally; Pilot2Atc  sees all of them and controlls the traffic accordingly..

Edited February 20, 20215 yr by kt069

This is all very complex to get this going at this point.  Really, all I am looking for is for airports to have reasonable real world liveries at the airports.  I dont care if they are per correct schedule or not, at the correct gates or not, or even the correct airline or not. I just want to see the airport reasonably populated with a liveried plane that can land/takoff and taxi to/from a gate. 

To put it simply, I have AI turned on and set to 100% right now, all I get is 2-3 airplanes in some weird two tone default paint scheme that never seem to move even at O'Hare or Atlanta.  When I have turned on the Real World traffic, I have never seen another aircraft.

The Traffic Global program for Xplane is excellent to achieve this very thing, I am sure something like this will come to MSFS but it will be a year or two.

 

I have this installed and working, but the need for learning at airports ist a big stumbling block for me. This may be okay if you frequently fly certain relations, say for a VA. However, I like to explore far distant and varying regions and having to learn gate usage at any airport in advance is beyond my patience. This way, PSXSeecontraffic is grounded for me right now, despite my running Real Traffic license. I'm using the built-in live traffic as well, but the phantasy paintings are annoying indeed.

This learning was not required under Prepar3d and there I made extended use of PSXSeecontraffic and enjoyed it,

But I agree, other solutions will emerge in the not so far future.

Kind regards, Michael

12 hours ago, GSalden said:

Fs AI ac/ATC is not realistic at all 

True, but taxying out to the runway with a bunch of AI planes completely unaware of your presence and not communicating on the ATC channels you are using isn't exactly realistic either, so of the two, I'd prefer to have stuff not crashing into me, even if it doesn't have a realistic livery, because you can change the liveries on those things if you want to.

For me, there is absolutely nothing worse than having an AI plane come in for a landing toward you as you are starting your take off roll for spoiling your immersion. We get enough of that with the ground traffic doing it on the ramps.

When someone knocks out something which has reasonably realistic real-world traffic which is using the simulator's ATC so stuff holds for you and you hold for it, or goes around when you are on the runway or sends you around when the runway is taken, I'll be all over that. Until then, I'll take the default AI over realistic paint jobs playing dodgems with me. If I want to go plane spotting, EGCC is three miles up the road from me. 🙂

Edited February 20, 20215 yr by Chock

1 hour ago, Mike S KPDX said:

This is all very complex to get this going at this point.  Really, all I am looking for is for airports to have reasonable real world liveries at the airports.  I dont care if they are per correct schedule or not, at the correct gates or not, or even the correct airline or not. I just want to see the airport reasonably populated with a liveried plane that can land/takoff and taxi to/from a gate. 

To put it simply, I have AI turned on and set to 100% right now, all I get is 2-3 airplanes in some weird two tone default paint scheme that never seem to move even at O'Hare or Atlanta.  When I have turned on the Real World traffic, I have never seen another aircraft.

The Traffic Global program for Xplane is excellent to achieve this very thing, I am sure something like this will come to MSFS but it will be a year or two.

 

I'm with you on that.  It seems too involved.  I too, just want to see actual liveries populate the airports and get in que to the active.  I use Traffic Global in P3d V4.5 and it works well for me there.  I'm sure they're working on a model for MSFS, give it time.

Gnacino