Just curious as I'm looking at upgrading my entire system..... is anyone using an RTX 3060 12GB with P3D V5? If so, how are you finding it when it comes to VRAM usage?

What resolution are you running at?

3 hours ago, mdreyer said:

Just curious as I'm looking at upgrading my entire system..... is anyone using an RTX 3060 12GB with P3D V5? If so, how are you finding it when it comes to VRAM usage?

With 11 GB VRAM I still run out of VRAM with EA on and 4k-textures at some LatinVFR airports (KMIA, KFLL, LEMD), but that's plannable. If I don't fly there I don't ever have to worry about VRAM. I think it will be the same for 12 GB.

I find this ridiculous. I run both P3D 5.1 and MSFS. I have a 2060 with 6GB VRAM and run 5.1 just fine. My settings are between Medium-Ultra, I run all of Orbx Global (but no payware airports) and all of the advanced aircraft. I find it to be acceptable. 

 

But the very notion that something like P3D, which is no gift to the eyes even with all the payware scenery raises questions like "is 12 GB VRAM enough?" when MSFS runs incredibly smooth and looks twice as good? Well... to ME, it doesn't bode too well for P3D's future as a product as it currently stands technically, and I am NOT referring to its qualities as a sim, etc. 

50 minutes ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

But the very notion that something like P3D, which is no gift to the eyes even with all the payware scenery raises questions like "is 12 GB VRAM enough?" when MSFS runs incredibly smooth and looks twice as good? Well... to ME, it doesn't bode too well for P3D's future as a product as it currently stands technically, and I am NOT referring to its qualities as a sim, etc. 

If you rip out stuff from P3D that you don't have in MSFS (like for example hundreds of AI traffic, higher LOD radius etc.) you will have also less VRAM usage in P3D.

MSFS blinds you with the streamed pretty scenery, thats all.

Keep on topic, it’s about P3D and vram needs etc.. It’s not a sim vs sim topic!

Cheers,

Pete

2 hours ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

I find this ridiculous. I run both P3D 5.1 and MSFS. I have a 2060 with 6GB VRAM and run 5.1 just fine.

You didn’t mention resolution. 4K has 8.3M pixels; 2K has 3.97M and FullHD just 2.07M.

Resolution has a significant impact on performance.

5 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

You didn’t mention resolution. 4K has 8.3M pixels; 2K has 3.97M and FullHD just 2.07M.

Resolution has a significant impact on performance.

True. I am running 1080p. 😉 

Using 4k in P3D and turning some sliders more to the right.....12 GB could be difficult when you plan to use the GPU for at least 2 years.....

VRAM is getting more important at the whole gaming industrie. 

Even Microsoft OS is already implementing features withing the OS wich use VRAM....

16GB would be great.

Edited March 23, 20215 yr by mpo910

1 minute ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

True. I am running 1080p. 😉 

No wonder things are fine for you. Bit like a Ferrari never getting out of second gear. 😉

6 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

No wonder things are fine for you. Bit like a Ferrari never getting out of second gear. 😉

Well, there is practicality issue. I run it on a gaming laptop with a 15" screen. I HAVE to have a laptop for portability - haven't owned a desktop since probably about 2004? So, for THAT purpose it's fine. IF I did get another system (a desktop) with a nice size 4K display, I'd probably invest in a desktop for that and it would have RTX 3090 etc... BUT there is the licensing issue - considering I PRIMARILY would use the laptop since I am always on the road and in and out of hotels, etc, a bunch of devs have licensing issues where you aren't allowed to have the product installed on more than one device at a time, regardless of a lack of simultaneous use, and paying for the same aircraft twice on the same platform is something I'd NEVER do, well... There is THAT factor in considering whether or not to invest into an additional desktop system... So the Ferrari analogy, I am afraid, is a little too black/white for my situation. Then there is also... IF I got a desktop, it would be most likely an Apple machine - I already use my MacBook Pro exclusively for productivity tasks. Cheers. 

Edited March 23, 20215 yr by BostonJeremy77

12 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

No wonder things are fine for you. Bit like a Ferrari never getting out of second gear. 😉

All though Ray, I read also that 1080p is the most used resolution in the gaming market. 

Followed by 2k

Followed with bigger distance by 4k

I think Jeremy learns here about what engine should be build in to drive faster...

Regards

Marcus

@BostonJeremy77, it wasn't meant as a criticism, just an observation. Sorry if you took it that way.

If your laptop has an HDMI port which I'm sure it has, have you considered buying a 27" 2560*1440 monitor? You could plug that into your laptop and have a much larger display. A couple of settings may need to be reduced but the advantage of a larger screen would surely outweigh the disadvantages.

The chances of buying a 3090 in the short to medium term are close to zero.

3 minutes ago, mpo910 said:

I think Jeremy learns here about what engine should be build in to drive faster...

Yes, my Ferrari comment wasn't appropriate as he's only running a 6Gb card.

3 hours ago, BostonJeremy77 said:

I find this ridiculous. I run both P3D 5.1 and MSFS. I have a 2060 with 6GB VRAM and run 5.1 just fine. My settings are between Medium-Ultra, I run all of Orbx Global (but no payware airports) and all of the advanced aircraft. I find it to be acceptable. 

 

But the very notion that something like P3D, which is no gift to the eyes even with all the payware scenery raises questions like "is 12 GB VRAM enough?" when MSFS runs incredibly smooth and looks twice as good? Well... to ME, it doesn't bode too well for P3D's future as a product as it currently stands technically, and I am NOT referring to its qualities as a sim, etc. 

MSFS is DX11, P3D is DX12 so it's an apples to oranges comparison. Once MSFS goes to DX12 which is HEAVILY influenced by amount of VRAM you have on your GPU, it will be a whole different ballgame. That'd why I have a 3090 with 24GB of it, nothing will stop it VRAM wise.