May 17, 20215 yr 2 hours ago, martin-w said: The footage of the one that dipped into the water. Although it appeared to just vanish to me. If you look carefully, you can see it disappear and then reappear in the same location for a fraction of a second before disappearing again. with no sign of any downward motion or splashing into the water. Dugald Walker
May 17, 20215 yr Author 1 hour ago, dmwalker said: If you look carefully, you can see it disappear and then reappear in the same location for a fraction of a second before disappearing again. with no sign of any downward motion or splashing into the water. Exactly, that was what I thought. The way it vanished complelty almost makes me think it was some kind of false image. Some kind of decoy tech made to fool the ship into thinking there was something there when there wasn't. But then they saw these things visually too, even hovering over a landing pad.
May 17, 20215 yr 1 hour ago, martin-w said: But then they saw these things visually too, even hovering over a landing pad. If it was hovering over a landing pad you would think they would be able to locate the landing pad. Years ago there were accounts of UFOs disappearing into the ocean between Los Angeles and Catalina or thereabouts. Speculation there was an underwater UFO base there. If there was they could have easily found it with underwater research craft. Why didn't they try? Or did they find it and classify the information? Or was it already a known UFO base? The speculation is endless. Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
May 17, 20215 yr Author Now this is a fascinating documentary regarding an incident in Wales most haven't heard of. Well worth watching. the military claimed it was an excercise. Clearly it wasn't. Witnesses report a huge pyramid shaped craft. The witness claims the military threatened her and her family with a car accident. There was a huge explosion heard by many. The claim is that it was shot at. Edited May 17, 20215 yr by martin-w
May 17, 20215 yr Author 1 hour ago, birdguy said: If it was hovering over a landing pad you would think they would be able to locate the landing pad. They could. It was the helicopter landing pad of their own ship. They watched it till it flew away.
May 18, 20215 yr 20 hours ago, martin-w said: Was it the object moving or the camera? If you look at the (admittedly low resolution pixellated) sea below the object in the first few seconds, it seems to me that the object is moving side to side at the start, but then remains stationary as it slowly descends. Christopher Low AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme UK2000 Beta Tester
May 18, 20215 yr Author 1 hour ago, Christopher Low said: If you look at the (admittedly low resolution pixellated) sea below the object in the first few seconds, it seems to me that the object is moving side to side at the start, but then remains stationary as it slowly descends. I'm thinking this is a camera glitch Chris.
May 18, 20215 yr 16 hours ago, martin-w said: They could. It was the helicopter landing pad of their own ship. They watched it till it flew away. You mean a UFO landed on a ship? I never heard of that incident. Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
May 18, 20215 yr Author 57 minutes ago, birdguy said: You mean a UFO landed on a ship? I never heard of that incident. Noel No, it hovered over the pad. Round ball of light. It's the same event as the video above. Numerous "drones" were darting around the ships. "Rafael Peralta observed a "white light identified hovering over" the ship's flight deck, according to the ship's log." https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/mystery-drones-hovered-over-u-s-navy-destroyers-california-coast-n1261970 Do watch that documentary of the Welsh incident. It was fascinating. And if they did shoot at it and it was indeed of alien origin, they are idiots.
May 18, 20215 yr Very interesting Martin, but it did not even suggest they might have been extraterrestial in origin with speeds and maneuvers reported with other sightings. Interesting they were referred to as drones. It could have been a classified military operation based on San Clemente Island and only the captains of the ships briefed on them with orders not to disclose...or not. It would be helpful to know what kind of an exercise the destroyers were on at the time. Could they have been sent there for the purpose of being drone targets? And the article never told us what the size of the lights were. Is there a 'SNOOPIE' team aboard all naval vessels or was the 'SNOOPIE' team aboard this vessel specifically to photograph the lights? The missing information far outweighs what we know from those reports. Knowing the military the way I do my first guess would be a classified military operation. Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
May 18, 20215 yr Author 48 minutes ago, birdguy said: 48 minutes ago, birdguy said: Very interesting Martin, but it did not even suggest they might have been extraterrestial in origin with speeds and maneuvers reported with other sightings. Interesting they were referred to as drones. Well yes, UFO's as in UNIDENTIFIED. What has been said is that they were loitering far longer than conventional drones can. In addition there was nowhere close enough for them to be based. If they were just man-made drones then the technology is way more advanced than conventional drones. They were refered to as drones for want of a better label. I don't think anyone with common sense would claim any encounter is definitively aliens. We simply don't know what they are. "It could have been a classified military operation based on San Clemente Island and only the captains of the ships briefed on them with orders not to disclose...or not." Don't think so. They wouldn't be flying a multitude of top secret craft over thir own ships for the entire crew to see. The other point is that this event is included in the oficial investigation into the numerous unidentifed craft that have been encountered. if they are of terrestrial origin, which is the most likely explanation, then it will be a foreign government spying on US ships. Edited May 18, 20215 yr by martin-w
May 18, 20215 yr Author 51 minutes ago, birdguy said: Is there a 'SNOOPIE' team aboard all naval vessels or was the 'SNOOPIE' team aboard this vessel specifically to photograph the lights? Normal for all ships I understand.
May 19, 20215 yr 4 hours ago, martin-w said: Normal for all ships I understand. You're probably right about that https://dod.defense.gov/News/Special-Reports/Remembering-September-11th-2017/Videos/videoid/282403/dvpTag/nautical/ Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
May 19, 20215 yr 8 hours ago, martin-w said: if they are of terrestrial origin, which is the most likely explanation, then it will be a foreign government spying on US ships. If they are of terrestrial origin then given the location of the drones and the proximity to San Clemente Island a more plausible explanation is it was a training exercise using some sort of classified super drones of a US development. If a foreign government was using them to spy on our ships wouldn't they do it near foreign shores like the Mediterranean or the Persian Gulf where we have so many US Navy ships deployed? Where would they be launched from so close to the California shore? A foreign surface ship or submarine would have been easily detected. Noel The tires are worn. The shocks are shot. The steering is wobbly. But the engine still runs fine.
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