Well as much as I like this bird, since installed there is absolutely no sound form the sim and control surfaces aren't moving at all.

So pretty useless as is.

Any ideas?

lol some of these comment crack me up.

Edited June 19, 20214 yr by Nyxx

11 hours ago, kaosfere said:

It's interesting to me to see so many people new to this plane.    It's long been available not just for XPlane but also for P3D...  are you folks who are new to it jumping on it just because it's the first PMDG plane for the new sim and you want something of theirs to mess with even if it's not what your usual fare would be?

I'd also be interested in the opinions of folks who try it who have experience with the P3D version as well.   I bought the P3D edition almost as soon as it was available and I love the thing.  I'm just wondering how they compare, with the exclusion of the obvious fact that the MSFS version is going to look much better.  Thoughts on that?

(Edit:  Reading back over this, I'm afraid it may have sounded a bit too "their first album was better / I knew them before they were famous"...  I don't mean it that way at all.  I'm sure I'm going to get this one, myself, and I'm just truly curious about the level of interest in it from folks who apparently haven't used the P3D or XPlane versions.)

Dunno when the P3D version was released, but according to me PMDG log on details, I got that P3D version on 11/4/2017, which is four years ago. So I've flown it quite a lot, however, it has some competition from Flight Replicas and Just Flight DC-4s, DC-6s and such, which, whilst not quite as fancy as the PMDG one, are mostly cheaper and still pretty good, with some of them being a bit more 'interesting' in terms of variants too, such as the FR Canadair Argonaut DC-4/6 hybrid with Merlin engines, so I wouldn't say I've flown the PMDG one in DC-6 in P3D a massive amount thanks to having some alternatives to play with as well, but I've certainly flown it around enough to know it pretty well.

I think this MSFS version is definitely better than the P3D one (apart from that ropey multiplayer crash issue), the MSFS version seems to ride the sky a bit more convincingly and I think the GUI for the tablet and its engineer functions are slicker and more intuitive.

Now whether that different flight feel is down to the sim itself, or the way PMDG have done its flight model for this newer sim I can't say, but if you take liberties with this version, it will bite you, whereas you could get away with things a bit more on the P3D version. That's why I prefer this, it feels like something you have to fly properly, which is kind of true of all PMDG things I know, but a little bit more so with this in comparison to its P3D sister.

I'd be happier if they'd not have banged it out with that crash bug though. That was sloppy and saying Asobo need to fix is not a suitable excuse even if it is what is necessary to alleviate the issue. I'm sure they'll sort it out between them, but it's marred the release of what is, bar that glitch, without doubt the best aeroplane for MSFS thus far and quite good value in terms of pricing. I'd suggested in all those speculation threads that 50 Dollars or so would be a good shot, and projected it might have been okay to take the price tag up to about the 59 quid mark and get away with it, so it was certainly welcome to see it come in at just over 40 quid. 

 

Edited June 19, 20214 yr by Chock

OOK I think I figured this out, it seems it has issues supporting spatial sound (Dolby Atmos) turned it off in Windows and in the sim and now got sound back and control surfaces are moving !! How  the two are connected is a mystery. Anyhow its definitely a bug.

15 minutes ago, Bandyka said:

Well as much as I like this bird, since installed there is absolutely no sound form the sim and control surfaces aren't moving at all.

So pretty useless as is.

Any ideas?

You probably have the gust lock on, it is a long red rod connected to the throttles it sits below the right hand side of the pilots seat, if it on you cannot move the controls.

Edited June 19, 20214 yr by Scimiter

17 minutes ago, Bandyka said:

Well as much as I like this bird, since installed there is absolutely no sound form the sim and control surfaces aren't moving at all.

So pretty useless as is.

Any ideas?

 seems solved

Edited June 19, 20214 yr by wim123

Yup, that'll be the gust locks if you can't move the elevators or ailerons (big red tube and lever arrangement down by the right side of the P1 position).

Don't feel bad for forgetting to take those off, the crew of the Boeing B-17 prototype did that back in 1935 when it was being demo'd for the Army at Wright Field, so when it took off it went out of control, crashed, burned and was completely written off, which was almost the end of the B-17 story before it even got a single order. Fortunately it got a second chance. This incident was notable for making Boeing begin to implement the extensive use of checklists, since it was an aircraft where you couldn't necessarily look out of the window and check all of the control surfaces visually:

Edited June 19, 20214 yr by Chock

5 minutes ago, wim123 said:

yes, r4ead the dang manuals you obvouslyt doing soemthing wrong.

A lot of question on here are all in the manuals but there you go. Complex airline and xxxx does not work....I just LOL. Also am not going to waste my time explaining if they have no time to RTFM.

Edited June 19, 20214 yr by Nyxx

this is why it should have been way more expensive, to get rid of the riffraff.

if you are not willing to spend a few hours studying it, dont get it.. is my view ofcourse.

ppl trying to play this with just the xbox controller, lol

ailerons dont work...ofcourse not , there is a lock..very amusing.

for me , i knew i woudnt play this very much, but its nice t have look at the cockpit etc.

i say it a superbe aircraft.

8 minutes ago, David Roch said:

You can't know how much that upsets me!
😄

Forums are like the Olympics. what is important is not to win but to participate 😇

7 minutes ago, Chock said:

Yup, that'll be the gust locks if you can't move the elevators or ailerons (big red tube and lever arrangement down by the right side of the P1 position).

Don't feel bad for forgetting to take those off, the crew of the Boeing B-17 prototype did that back in 1935 when it was being demo'd for the Army at Wright Field, so when it took off it went out of control crashed, burned and was completely destroyed, which was almost the end of the product before it even got a single order. This incident was notable for making Boeing begin to implement the use of checklists:

I did the same thing last night Chock, first flight was fine, second flight she wouldn't take off and I went straight through the hedge at the end of the runway! I thought there was something wrong with my joystick......then I read the manual doh lol. Moral of the story read the manual before you fly.😎

4 hours ago, robert young said:

Odd. I flew the turbo bonanza a few days ago and it was fine (can't remember whether it was before or after the recent Asobo update). In what way do you think it is "outdated"? BTW - the DC6 looks magnificent.

I didn’t intend anything by saying outdated, I just meant I hadn’t checked if there was a new update for it. My CTD was just happening at FB’s PDX. 

12 hours ago, kaosfere said:

It's interesting to me to see so many people new to this plane.    It's long been available not just for XPlane but also for P3D...  are you folks who are new to it jumping on it just because it's the first PMDG plane for the new sim and you want something of theirs to mess with even if it's not what your usual fare would be?

I'd also be interested in the opinions of folks who try it who have experience with the P3D version as well.   I bought the P3D edition almost as soon as it was available and I love the thing.  I'm just wondering how they compare, with the exclusion of the obvious fact that the MSFS version is going to look much better.  Thoughts on that?

 

(Edit:  Reading back over this, I'm afraid it may have sounded a bit too "their first album was better / I knew them before they were famous"...  I don't mean it that way at all.  I'm sure I'm going to get this one, myself, and I'm just truly curious about the level of interest in it from folks who apparently haven't used the P3D or XPlane versions.)

 

Hi Rob,

I have bought every aircraft that PMDG have made apart from the DC-6. Before MSFS I used FSX then P3D v3-5. Before MSFS I only enjoyed flying tubeliners. 95% of the time I would fly FSL A320.

When MSFS came out for the first time in 28 years I enjoyed GA flying becasue of how stunning MSFS is and you can truely eyeball around area you know well. So I also enjoyed the WW2 Spit, FD and P40, I found not only does flying fast and low stunning but a real challange. No GPS no magenta line. Complely diffent to what I have dont the past years.

So now the DC-6 is not only an airliner but a totaly diffrent world to FMS magenta line etc. So now I really look forward to this new challenge and something totaly new to learn. Now A320/NG/777/748 etc have the same appeal the DC-6 had to be 4 years agao, very little to none. Will that change again? it might when the PMDG NG comes out, but taking 25min to push back does little for me now.

Also the DC-6 built in FE is not a gimick if anyway watching vid's of the DC-6 the captain does very little the guy in the middle does all the engines. So it strangly more real to do very little and let the FE do what theyrealy does IRL.

Edited June 19, 20214 yr by Nyxx

32 minutes ago, wim123 said:

this is why it should have been way more expensive, to get rid of the riffraff.

if you are not willing to spend a few hours studying it, dont get it.. is my view ofcourse.

Naturally, you will have never ever made a mistake or ever have needed any help from anyone with anything, and I'm sure PMDG would want less people to be buying it and therefore relying on this level of study and expertise being the case for all its customers.

Glad that is indeed just your view, because it's not a very charitable one, nor is it very welcoming to people who are new to stuff. Yeah we should all read the manual etc, but people are often keen to just jump in and rock it in their shiny new toy, so it's inevitable there will be things such as people forgetting the control locks or over-boosting the engines etc. Us all helping each other out and chatting about this etc, is part of the fun of being into flight sims.

And don't forget that this is supposed to be fun, it's not a job, nor a study aid, and even if it was, it's not like there are tons of airlines out there looking for experts on flying the DC-6 to come and work for them. It's true that some of us have used sim aeroplanes to help with our real jobs of course, but to most people it's Call of Duty with aeroplanes, and there's nothing wrong with that, because it's not like the army are going to phone you up and ask you to storm an embassy for them because you are on the leaderboard for Counterstrike. 🤣

Edited June 19, 20214 yr by Chock

So yesterday I was flying my local hop from ENCN to ENGM multiplayer on, but also with generic models turned on for multiplayer. I noticed that I was getting closer to some other traffic. Most of it was not dc6, but then i saw another dc6 come close, and then my sim crashed.

At the time i didnt think more about it other than sim instability that randomly occours, but then I read in this thread that multiplayer will crash the sim with the DC6 if you get close to another dc6. Is that also true with generic models turned on?

From my little flight yesterday it seems turning on generic models doesnt help?