Hi friends,

I'm sure you remember that in FSX there was this massive "texture cross" shape formed around the airplane in which the LOD was high. Beyond that was an abrupt change (made worse by the straight lines of the cross) in LOD which spoilt the immersion. 

I just noticed that this dreaded thing has shown up in my MSFS 🙄 Are any of you seeing this in your game? Is there a fix please?

Thanks for any advice.

 

41 minutes ago, ThrottleUp said:

Is there a fix please?

The fix is focussing your eyes out the window as any pilot would, instead of looking at the outside view with a magnifying glass...  there is going to be a transition somewhere from high LOD to lower LOD.. no real surprise 😉

Edited June 19, 20214 yr by Bert Pieke

37 minutes ago, Bert Pieke said:

The fix is focussing your eyes out the window as any pilot would, instead of looking at the outside view with a magnifying glass...  there is going to be a transition somewhere from high LOD to lower LOD.. no real surprise 😉

Sound advice 🙂 and actually from the pilots seat I dont notice it at all. Its just that it sometimes spoils things when I want to take a screenshot! 

I'm not sure I agree with you statement about LOD. Did you go over to the seam and see if there was a transition or are you just guessing?  I think it's a transition between mismatched tiles and it's just one of the things we will have deal with on a photo tile based game.  There are many jarring transitions in the game.  Flying through Colorado many times it looks great and then there is one rouge tile area that is a wintertime photo with snow.  I have actually asked Asobo in a Q and A about preserving the best fitting tiles for the surrounding not the most recent ones.  They basically said the update is automatic so tough word not allowed.  

The more places I fly I learn that Bing photo tiles are mostly inferior to Google tiles, there is so much Earth missing.   

As said above, you see the seam between two sat pics of different coloring and/or resolution. No fix for that. It can be very visible and downright ugly or hardly noticeable but it is all over the world. It comes with the territory (pun intended) as the ground is a patchwork of images. Asobo has obviously no algorithm to smoothen the transition at the edge of tiles  at least for the tint.

The jury is still out  to know whether the Bing imagery is worse than Google Earth. Flying all over the world I have not yet completely made my mind. It really depends where you look. Both MS and Google licence their sat imagery from the same suppliers but it seems that Bing has indeed often older and coarser pics. Not always.

By many aspects you will see that MFS is both a wonderful sim and an unfinished business.

13 hours ago, aniiran said:

I'm not sure I agree with you statement about LOD. Did you go over to the seam and see if there was a transition or are you just guessing?  I think it's a transition between mismatched tiles and it's just one of the things we will have deal with on a photo tile based game.  There are many jarring transitions in the game.  Flying through Colorado many times it looks great and then there is one rouge tile area that is a wintertime photo with snow.  I have actually asked Asobo in a Q and A about preserving the best fitting tiles for the surrounding not the most recent ones.  They basically said the update is automatic so tough word not allowed.  

The more places I fly I learn that Bing photo tiles are mostly inferior to Google tiles, there is so much Earth missing.   

I cant ever reach the edge because the area moves with me. Having said that this is the first time I have noticed this. I feel now that it will much more noticeable over flat landscapes. I do a lot of flying over the Brazilian Amazon. I have not noticed this (im sure its still there) in mountainous areas.

11 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

As said above, you see the seam between two sat pics of different coloring and/or resolution. No fix for that. It can be very visible and downright ugly or hardly noticeable but it is all over the world. It comes with the territory (pun intended) as the ground is a patchwork of images. Asobo has obviously no algorithm to smoothen the transition at the edge of tiles  at least for the tint.

The jury is still out  to know whether the Bing imagery is worse than Google Earth. Flying all over the world I have not yet completely made my mind. It really depends where you look. Both MS and Google licence their sat imagery from the same suppliers but it seems that Bing has indeed often older and coarser pics. Not always.

By many aspects you will see that MFS is both a wonderful sim and an unfinished business.

There are many places I have noticed Google is a bit better and clearer . Bing is good, sometimes very good but so far I feel Google inches ahead a little (in the places I fly to). They seem more on top of their updates and quality. In some places (like below the difference is not massive from an eye candy perspective but Google is more up to date)  But theres no question about your last point - the game looks fantastic and I am really enjoying it. Can spend 8+ hours easy every day on it 🙂

Iloilo, Philippines. Top: Bing | Bottom: Google 

Iloilo, Philippines. Top: Bing | Bottom: Google 

 

1 hour ago, ThrottleUp said:

I cant ever reach the edge because the area moves with me. Having said that this is the first time I have noticed this. I feel now that it will much more noticeable over flat landscapes. I do a lot of flying over the Brazilian Amazon

In the Amazon you should rarely have visibility far enough to see that transition.

Part of the problem is the weather in the sim currently does not handle visibility all that well sometimes. 

The furthest I've ever been able to see in real life was about 90 nm over Greenland at altitude.  And in humid climates, 30 nm at lower altitudes is a long way to see.

17 hours ago, Mace said:

In the Amazon you should rarely have visibility far enough to see that transition.

Part of the problem is the weather in the sim currently does not handle visibility all that well sometimes. 

The furthest I've ever been able to see in real life was about 90 nm over Greenland at altitude.  And in humid climates, 30 nm at lower altitudes is a long way to see.

Oh okay, useful info thanks! Is there a visibility slider in the game? FSX style? I will look it up. Will also look at real world vids of Amazon flights to try and match the visibility look!

On 6/20/2021 at 1:27 AM, Dominique_K said:

By many aspects you will see that MFS is both a wonderful sim and an unfinished business.

True, but if MSFS ever WAS finished... what on earth (pun intended as well) would we talk about? 🙂

46 minutes ago, ThrottleUp said:

Oh okay, useful info thanks! Is there a visibility slider in the game? FSX style? I will look it up. Will also look at real world vids of Amazon flights to try and match the visibility look!

Try experimenting with the aerosol slider in the time of day / weather page.

1 minute ago, VFXSimmer said:

True, but if MSFS ever WAS finished... what on earth (pun intended as well) would we talk about? 🙂

😄

Well let me think. Our virtual  flights, our real life travels compared to the virtual flights, how good or bad is our hardware is, the new hardware coming up... and of course girls !  Didn't you observe  on you Tube that you cannot see a vid about the 310 or the TBM or <name your favorite aircraft> without having a nice girlie on the left or right seat. Of course we are all supposed to be old enough now not to care anymore  (my foot !) . 

On 6/19/2021 at 11:25 PM, aniiran said:

The more places I fly I learn that Bing photo tiles are mostly inferior to Google tiles, there is so much Earth missing.

thats where I have thought since alpha that if someone wanted to make a better looking sim, they could use googles data.  thats probably the only way msfs would not be as good.   I would bet that there are more detailed, up-to-date areas in google's tiles compared to bing's tiles.

Edited June 21, 20214 yr by Brandon01110