Or, perhaps, time travel forward and backward just lives in our imaginations.

Noel

One problem with naturally occurring wormholes, if they exist, would be that they may not take you where you want to go. 

In order to create an artificial wormhole, presumably you would have to travel by more conventional means to get to the spot where you want the other end to be in order to set up the required technology for it to exist.

In any case, where would you want a wormhole to take you? I liked the idea, in the movie “Contact”, where aliens communicated the technological information allowing us to create an entrance and travel to their planet.

2 hours ago, dmwalker said:

In any case, where would you want a wormhole to take you?

I recall a Star Trek episode where Geordi warned a Ferengi shuttle that a wormhole was about to close.  They didn't believe him and were lost forever.

Where would I like a wormhole to take me?  To a planet that had a lot of unpolluted trout streams and rivers to fly fish in.

Noel

Edited August 17, 20214 yr by birdguy

 

This is not a video related to any Ufo encounter at YT! But honestly, how many "strange things" see you during the flight! And remember, most of the pilots see something only one time, if its not captured on a vid!

On 8/15/2021 at 4:37 PM, birdguy said:

I have a problem with time travel.

The biggest - and often overlooked in sci-fi - problem with time travel, is the fact that since the Earth is rotating at approximately 1,000 mph, and orbiting the sun at 67,000 mph, whilst the entire solar system itself is whizzing around the centre of the galaxy at 490,000 mph, not forgetting that the entire universe is also on the move, if you did actually go back or forward in time, you'd probably also have to compensate for this speed and rotation too, since the conservation of momentum probably would not cover it to allow you to emerge from your time jump at the same location.

This means a 'time machine' would probably have to also be some sort of self-contained vessel, such as a space ship. On a more prosaic level, you can travel back in time by going to Matlock in Derbyshire where, judging by the place and its inhabitants' dress sense, it is currently somewhere around 1973.

15 minutes ago, Chock said:

the Earth is rotating at approximately 1,000 mph, and orbiting the sun at 67,000 mph, whilst the entire solar system itself is whizzing around the centre of the galaxy at 490,000 mph

Like a galactic Octopus fairground ride.

12 hours ago, Chock said:

The biggest - and often overlooked in sci-fi - problem with time travel, is the fact that since the Earth is rotating at approximately 1,000 mph, and orbiting the sun at 67,000 mph, whilst the entire solar system itself is whizzing around the centre of the galaxy at 490,000 mph, not forgetting that the entire universe is also on the move, if you did actually go back or forward in time, you'd probably also have to compensate for this speed and rotation too, since the conservation of momentum probably would not cover it to allow you to emerge from your time jump at the same location.

This means a 'time machine' would probably have to also be some sort of self-contained vessel, such as a space ship. On a more prosaic level, you can travel back in time by going to Matlock in Derbyshire where, judging by the place and its inhabitants' dress sense, it is currently somewhere around 1973.

 

Not in terms of the premise in the video, namely, a wormhole. The two portals would move with the environment. 

Even if it were only one machine, you would be traveling to the location of the machine in the future. And only back in time to the location of the machine in the past, not before it was invented. So again, planetary location isn't an issue.

The science fiction premise where you just dematerialise and get beamed to a destination in the future or past would require time and space coordinates, but that's not really a logical premise.

Something like Doctor Who's Tardis where the entire machine plus occupants travels in time and space would obviously require spatial coordinates. 

Edited August 18, 20214 yr by martin-w

On 8/15/2021 at 1:06 PM, shamrockflyer said:

As much as there are reports of pilots reporting incidents with UFO's I think they're more far and few between than we think. It seems what ever is in those UFO's is more interested in military aircraft than civil, which would indicate they have some intelligence as to what they are observing

A rough estimate I’ve arrived at speaking to other pilots is that around a third have a story to tell. That’s either something they’ve seen themselves or they know of something that’s happened to someone else.

These craft seem interested in all sorts of aviation and also seem to have a keen interest in shipping.

The stuff that gets officially reported is just a small fraction of what is actually being seen on a regular basis.

34 minutes ago, jon b said:

A rough estimate I’ve arrived at speaking to other pilots is that around a third have a story to tell

 

That's a lot of sightings. What stories do they tell?

 

34 minutes ago, jon b said:

These craft seem interested in all sorts of aviation and also seem to have a keen interest in shipping

 

An interest in technological development, which would make sense.

Edited August 18, 20214 yr by martin-w

There’s a whole range of stories, from people seeing things from their windows at home, their parents telling them of things they’ve seen years ago, or indeed things that have been seen while flying.

One of the most dramatic I’ve mentioned here before was an old friend and colleague who while flying across the Atlantic in the 60’s had an object fly along side them in formation.

A military air traffic controller I spoke said they to used to regularly track  targets moving erratically at great speed on their precision approach radar. The list goes on

Do any of you remember Captain Bala from the Flightsim.com hangar talk forum?  He was an Air India B747 captain.  He died a number of years ago after suffering a stroke while on a trip tp the East Indies somewhere.

Captain Bala became friends of Jesse Callahan and myself and when he came to the United States the family visited the both of us.

They spent a weekend with us and Capt Bala and I sat up almost all night talking and he told me of a UFO encounter he had when he was in The Indian Air Force flying  a MIG over the Assam Valley.  He told me he had no idea what it was or why it was there.  His description was typical of most of the encounters.  He said it was disc shaped and flew in formation with him for several minutes and then departed at a high rate of speed.  I have no reason to doubt him.

There is obviously something out there that we know nothing about.  Neither, do I think, do our governments.  Secrets can only be kept so long.  Since the first sightings that got public notice in the state of Washington and the pilot came up with the term flying saucers shortly after WW2 their have been thousands of sightings.  If governments know what they are and why they are here that information would have been leaked years ago.

It is interesting to note that the connection between the Roswell incident and the fact that the 509th Bomb Group, the group that bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima, was based at Walker Air Force Base which is now Roswell's main airport, was never made.

There must be something out there.  But we can only speculate and try to build coherent stories of what the sightings are.

Noel

5 hours ago, jon b said:

One of the most dramatic I’ve mentioned here before was an old friend and colleague who while flying across the Atlantic in the 60’s had an object fly along side them in formation.

Can we assume that, if that happens to you, you'll do the right thing and take lots of videos and post them in this forum?

With almost everyone in the world carrying cameras to take pictures of everything from stray dogs to crying babies you would think by now some clear photos would have emerged of the most recent sightings.  Especially from passenger aircraft.

"This is your captain speaking.  We have a UFO flying in formation with us of the left side of the aircraft.  Will those of you who have cameras and smartphones please start taking pictures and videos of it?   Please don't use you flash. Thank you very much."

Once my brother and I were riding Amtrack's California Zephyr from Denver to Oakland.  We were sitting in the lounge car about half way between Helper and Provo in a beautiful forested area.  It was getting dusk and a bit dark.  A lady sitting in the next seat beside us was snapping picture after picture using her flash.  I told Leon that when she got her film back all she was going to see was the flash reflection on the window.  

Noel

Edited August 18, 20214 yr by birdguy

19 hours ago, dmwalker said:

Can we assume that, if that happens to you, you'll do the right thing and take lots of videos and post them in this forum?

That’d be more than my jobs worth 😄

On 8/18/2021 at 12:39 PM, jon b said:

A military air traffic controller I spoke said they to used to regularly track  targets moving erratically at great speed on their precision approach radar. The list goes on

 

"Erratically" makes me favour the radar glitch hypothesis or some form of natural phenomenon. I cant see how aliens in high tech spaceships, or alien probes, would be flying erratically.