4 hours ago, jon b said:

Some interesting viewing on this is a film called patient 17

In Patient 17, I thought they missed an opportunity to compare sample 17 with sample 15 to show just how similar they were, but the highlights of the film were when Steve asked Patient 17 “Do you think the pain was to punish you somehow or control you?, and later stated that “All they have to do is turn the mental control up to level 7 from level 3 and they can get you to do whatever they want.”

11 hours ago, dmwalker said:

That would mean that they are not nomadic by choice and are probably looking for a new home.

 

Could be either I guess, choice or no choice. But with the capability to travel at significant relativistic velocities they would have encountered many planets they could call home by now and have found their home I would have thought. And we evolved to be perfectly suited to this world. Likely an alien species would have diferent requirements. 

The other point worth mentioning is that if they had developed some kind of Alcubierre warp drive there would be no time dilation.

12 hours ago, jon b said:

The most compelling thing for me was at the landing site of the craft they examined the surrounding trees. The ones immediately surrounding the landing site had grown several times more rapidly over the years than other trees in the area and even more so on the side of the tree facing the landing site.

 

Who examined the trees? Somebody biased in favour of the UFO explanation for example? Or an independent scientific investigation? UFO investigators themselves regard his claims as a hoax.

 

 

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Skeptical reception[edit]

Skeptics consider the case to be a hoax, describing it as "sensationalizing on the part of the media" and "a put-up job to make money". UFO researcher Philip J. Klass considered Walton's story to be a hoax perpetrated for financial gain and discovered many "discrepancies" in the accounts of Walton and his co-workers. After investigating the case, Klass reported that the polygraph tests were "poorly administered", that Walton used "polygraph countermeasures," such as holding his breath, and that Klass uncovered an earlier failed test administered by an examiner who concluded the case involved "gross deception".^{[13][14][15][5][16]}

 

 

 

Edited August 23, 20214 yr by martin-w

I’m not sure, I can’t remember who they said they were who investigated the trees, it’s at the end of the film which is interesting if you get a chance to watch it. One thing I did think was quite convenient was that the exact location of the landing site was being kept a secret.

The Netflix series unsolved mysteries- the Berkshire UFO episode is also an interesting story.

I’d like nothing more than this whole phenomenon to be proven as a giant hoax and the only aliens were those in Hollywood , but regrettably I don’t think that’s the case.

1 hour ago, jon b said:

I can’t remember who they said they were who investigated the trees

They just said "we" which I take to mean the original logging crew.

2 hours ago, jon b said:

I’d like nothing more than this whole phenomenon to be proven as a giant hoax and the only aliens were those in Hollywood , but regrettably I don’t think that’s the case.

 

Its a mystery that's been around for a very long time.  Long enough for you not to worry. The asteroids are jam packed with all manner of resources and it looks like there are plenty of inhabitable worlds out there. If there is another technologically advanced species around at the same time as us, and they haven't destroyed themselves, and they have mastered interstellar travel... there's plenty of planets out there for them to inhabit. They will have mastered engineering on the atomic scale too, so will be able to create whatever materials they need from basic atoms, so probably wouldn't need to mine anything.

Observing, like our scientists observe, is the most likely motive if the alien hypothesis is true. Most likely with unmanned probes. 

Edited August 23, 20214 yr by martin-w

I wonder what they eat?  Could it be that they just stop here to replenish their stores and look at other things like aircraft and ships at sea as mere curiosities to toy with?

Noel

3 hours ago, martin-w said:

Observing, like our scientists observe, is the most likely motive if the alien hypothesis is true.

They may be filming for Mutual of Orion's Wild Kingdom. Old folks will recognise the reference, especially those who live in Omaha.

I keep an open mind on the subject of UFOs, but I would like to point out that the mind of Phillip J Klass was closed to the point of being triple padlocked. Not the kind of person I would want when conducting a scientific investigation.

Edited August 23, 20214 yr by Christopher Low

This is a railfan video but at 23:52 the camera catches a UFO circling a cloud at a great rate of speed.  Much faster than any known aircraft.  They call it lightning, but I know that's just a coverup. 

Noel

5 hours ago, birdguy said:

I wonder what they eat?

Pancakes

https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2020/10/a-bizarre-ufo-encounter-and-alien-pancakes/

 

5 hours ago, birdguy said:

I wonder what they eat?

Cow’s anus and tongue apparently. 
They really are disgusting.

2 hours ago, jon b said:

Cow’s anus and tongue apparently. 
They really are disgusting.

Still, with the pancakes, I suppose that would constitute a balanced diet.

They must get the cow parts fresh from somewhere. I think any self-respecting replicator would refuse to make them.

Edited August 23, 20214 yr by dmwalker

2 hours ago, dmwalker said:

They must get the cow parts fresh from somewhere.

Almost any butcher shop or super market would be glad to sell them everything from soup bones to filet mignon.

Noel

I'll  truly believe they are aliens when they begin to sell us seemingly wonderful artifacts. Pohl Anderson had 2 or 3 volumes in his series 'Trader to the Stars' and Han Solo was a similar character. I wonder how much he paid Wookie for services.

" the Dutch traded “10 boxes of shirts, 10 ells of red cloth, 30 pounds of powder, 30 pairs of socks, 2 pieces of duffel, some awls, 10 muskets, 30 kettles, 25 adzes, 10 bars of lead, 50 axes and some knives.” for Staten Island a few decades after buying Manhattan for 60 guilders from the natives.