3 hours ago, Alvega said:

What do you mean by "normal loading times"? You mean the loading time is the same as before installing the program? I ask because Mathijs said the loading time would be at least 15% longer on a good rig. More on an old one.

I didn't use a stop watch, but loading time was just about the same as I have been used to for the last 10 months. 

3 hours ago, jbriley said:

Hi Guys 

I'm giving Simple Traffic a try also. I'm using it with Live Traffic and so far the liveries of the planes arriving don't match the description. While I've seen numerous various SWA arrivals I've yet to see a SWA livery. Is anybody getting good livery matching and if so what might I be doing wrong. Thanks!

Jeb

SWA is supported. What airports have you been flying out of? 

 

5 hours ago, jbriley said:

Hi Guys 

I'm giving Simple Traffic a try also. I'm using it with Live Traffic and so far the liveries of the planes arriving don't match the description. While I've seen numerous various SWA arrivals I've yet to see a SWA livery. Is anybody getting good livery matching and if so what might I be doing wrong. Thanks!

Jeb

KBNA Airport   

 

 

How's the perf hit so far?  

I haven’t noticed any FPS hit even at large airports with a few dozen full gates.. The default AI models we like to pick on seem to have scored on that topic. 

8 hours ago, Noel said:

How's the perf hit so far?  

It is the same as default.

I will use this program until AIG release their final non beta version and then switch over.

Just be aware if you have add-on airports even some of the default Asobo hand crafted airports you may run into issues. Figured I'd try it out last night but it was a quick lived test. 

1.  I only saw 330 and 380 with different liveries, no 320's yet?   Why wouldn't all the airlines who don't even own 330's and 380's just use the 320? 

2.  I had A/C flying a few hundred feet above the airport which I have never seen before but the support thread was locked. 

2.  I had to empty my entire community folder to get it to work.  No idea which add-on in my community folder broke ST but one of them did.  Couldn't load MSFS until I cleared out my community library.  Imaginesim ATL didn't work, having FLL in my community folder meant the sim wouldn't load, one of my community add-ons is causing a conflict.

There are multiple users with this issue of infinite loading times, add-on conflicts and the publisher in their exceptional support as Aerosoft always does came back with this and locked the thread so now there is another thread but AS is refusing to concede ST could be the issue. 

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"But honestly, do not wait for us for a fix on this. "

 

"...we are pretty sure this is an issue local to your machine. "

 

"Did we publish an add-on that works with all corrupted sims and not with your perfect sim?"

 

"So far we have three people reporting this (including you) one of them where the issue was explainable.  And a few thousand of people who do not see this extremely long loading times."

If that is their attitude to support when multiple people (more than 3 but they locked the thread) are reporting the issues, all pointing to either add-on airports somewhere in there community folder or even Asobo handcrafted airports after paying for this product which apparently is not compatible with add-on airports I'll stick with the more "complicated" but well supported option with a developer who actually wants to help even when they aren't charging for it.  

So yeah, been there done that "not for me personally", especially not with that attitude towards helping users with issues but I wish them all the best and glad there are a lot of happy users and wish them nothing but good times with ST.  No animosity at all, hope others enjoy!!

 

 

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10 minutes ago, psolk said:

Just be aware if you have add-on airports even some of the default Asobo hand crafted airports you may run into issues. Figured I'd try it out last night but it was a quick lived test. 

1.  I only saw 330 and 380 with different liveries, no 320's yet?   Why wouldn't all the airlines who don't even own 330's and 380's just use the 320? 

2.  I had A/C flying a few hundred feet above the airport which I have never seen before but the support thread was locked. 

2.  I had to empty my entire community folder to get it to work.  No idea which add-on in my community folder broke ST but one of them did.  Couldn't load MSFS until I cleared out my community library.  Imaginesim ATL didn't work, having FLL in my community folder meant the sim wouldn't load, one of my community add-ons is causing a conflict.

There are multiple users with this issue of infinite loading times, add-on conflicts and the publisher in their exceptional support as Aerosoft always does came back with this and locked the thread so now there is another thread but AS is refusing to concede ST could be the issue. 

If that is their attitude to support when multiple people (more than 3 but they locked the thread) are reporting the issues, all pointing to either add-on airports somewhere in there community folder or even Asobo handcrafted airports after paying for this product which apparently is not compatible with add-on airports I'll stick with the more "complicated" but well supported option with a developer who actually wants to help even when they aren't charging for it.  

So yeah, been there done that "not for me personally", especially not with that attitude towards helping users with issues but I wish them all the best and glad there are a lot of happy users and wish them nothing but good times with ST.  No animosity at all, hope others enjoy!!

 

 

That alone is enough for me to save my money, move on and support/wait for something better. 

23 minutes ago, psolk said:

2.  I had A/C flying a few hundred feet above the airport which I have never seen before but the support thread was locked. 

I have seen that many times with both default AI as with AIG, and for that reason I have never used Offline AI, It is a bug that Asobo need to fix.

Maybe there is some static aircrafts at some add-on airports that will conflict with the program, II'm sure there will be a fix for this shortly, I myself have not encountered any problems at all except some Asobo bugs.

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25 minutes ago, psolk said:

 

There are multiple users with this issue of infinite loading times, add-on conflicts and the publisher in their exceptional support as Aerosoft always does came back with this and locked the thread so now there is another thread but AS is refusing to concede ST could be the issue. 

If that is their attitude to support when multiple people (more than 3 but they locked the thread) are reporting the issues, all pointing to either add-on airports somewhere in there community folder or even Asobo handcrafted airports after paying for this product which apparently is not compatible with add-on airports I'll stick with the more "complicated" but well supported option with a developer who actually wants to help even when they aren't charging for it.  

So yeah, been there done that "not for me personally", especially not with that attitude towards helping users with issues but I wish them all the best and glad there are a lot of happy users and wish them nothing but good times with ST.  No animosity at all, hope others enjoy!!

 

 

This was their reply to the few people complaining about loading times. Apparently is a very tiny percentage of people that purchased Simple traffic. 

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We close the other topic because we could not find convince the topic starter that when a few thousand customers can run a  product and he can not the issue simply has to be a local one and he seemed not very willing to search for the cause of that and kept blaming Simple Traffic. That happens and it is our policy to try to assist but not to spend a serious amount of time for one customer and a few euro of profit.  The customer was unhappy and we refunded 

 

Can you change things around and remove everything EXCEPT Simple Traffic. If it still fails it means there is something unexpected in your system, if it works there is some DLC installed that causes an issue and probably is not created fully to SDK standards. These things are devilishly hard to debug.  As far as our experience goes, issues are often caused by 3rd party liveries that are exported from FSX or P3D. 

 

If the add-on does not work on a absolute clean MSFS we'll gladly refund.  We might ask for some files to make sure it is indeed a clean FS though.

 

 

28 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

This was their reply to the few people complaining about loading times. Apparently is a very tiny percentage of people that purchased Simple traffic. 

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We close the other topic because we could not find convince the topic starter that when a few thousand customers can run a  product and he can not the issue simply has to be a local one and he seemed not very willing to search for the cause of that and kept blaming Simple Traffic. That happens and it is our policy to try to assist but not to spend a serious amount of time for one customer and a few euro of profit.  The customer was unhappy and we refunded 

 

Can you change things around and remove everything EXCEPT Simple Traffic. If it still fails it means there is something unexpected in your system, if it works there is some DLC installed that causes an issue and probably is not created fully to SDK standards. These things are devilishly hard to debug.  As far as our experience goes, issues are often caused by 3rd party liveries that are exported from FSX or P3D. 

 

If the add-on does not work on a absolute clean MSFS we'll gladly refund.  We might ask for some files to make sure it is indeed a clean FS though.

 

 

Yes Bob and there are now a few other threads with multiple people reporting the same behavior.   So you have a freeware dev staying up through the night to help people who haven't paid and then you have 

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That happens and it is our policy to try to assist but not to spend a serious amount of time for one customer and a few euro of profit.

So, yes, my personal preference is not to troubleshoot as Aerosoft made it clear I am nothing more than a few euro of profit.   As it works when I remove everything from my community folder but doesn't when I have add-ons.  I'm not about to start trying to figure out which mod is breaking ST and as I don't have a vanilla MSFS I m not asking for a refund.  

I also have a policy that when I make an MSFS purchase I also make a donation in the same amount to Ronald McDonald House or Covenant House so for me even with the wasted money on ST it is a positive.  

I was simply trying to make people aware of the issue I ran into and others are experiencing.   Taking everything out of my community folder to change liveries on default AC to make the program work was not for me personally.    While obviously not everyone is experiencing this if you are a user with a lot of community add-ons and add-on scenery you "may" experience issues as I did.  

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35 minutes ago, Ixoye said:

I have seen that many times with both default AI as with AIG, and for that reason I have never used Offline AI, It is a bug that Asobo need to fix.

Maybe there is some static aircrafts at some add-on airports that will conflict with the program, II'm sure there will be a fix for this shortly, I myself have not encountered any problems at all except some Asobo bugs.

Why would you expect there to be a fix shortly when Mathijs specifically said they wouldn't fix it despite multiple users complaining of add-on incompatibility.  And it's not 3 people as he claims...  They would be better served not letting him speak to customers honestly.  This is nothing new and I actually said this would be their response to issues before the product was even released and sure enough they are living up to their reputation.  Blame it on the user and lock the thread.  

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"But honestly, do not wait for us for a fix on this. "

 

"...we are pretty sure this is an issue local to your machine. "

 

"Did we publish an add-on that works with all corrupted sims and not with your perfect sim?"

 

"So far we have three people reporting this (including you) one of them where the issue was explainable.  And a few thousand of people who do not see this extremely long loading times."

 

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28 minutes ago, psolk said:

Why would you expect there to be a fix shortly when Mathijs specifically said they wouldn't fix it despite multiple users complaining of add-on incompatibility.  And it's not 3 people as he claims...  They would be better served not letting him speak to customers honestly.  This is nothing new and I actually said this would be their response to issues before the product was even released and sure enough they are living up to their reputation.  Blame it on the user and lock the thread.  

 

Because they are working on it.  https://forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?/topic/168073-important-sim-does-not-load-at-aiport-please-report-here/

Thanks @Ixoye good to see.  I guess they only tested ST with an empty vanilla MSFS... Looks like quite a few airports cause conflicts and prevent MSFS from loading so hopefully there is something common between all of them that if they fix one they fix them all.