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Turbulence over the Alps ….

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Still overdone. 🤢

 

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1 hour ago, Doering said:

Ya, that is some severe and abrupt trim adjustment!

Yes. Very unrealistic. The 737 would want to counter with elevators initially and should not use the old FSX style of maintaining vertical profile with stab trim only.

And for the record, the IVSI will at times indicate significant vertical acceleration caused by turbulence - even if you are maintaining altitude somewhat. That's just how an IVSI is designed.

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1 minute ago, SAS443 said:

Yes. Very unrealistic. The 737 would want to counter with elevators initially and should not use the old FSX style of maintaining vertical profile with stab trim only.

And for the record, the IVSI will at times indicate significant vertical acceleration caused by turbulence - even if you are maintaining altitude somewhat. That's just how an IVSI is designed.

That good is the MSFS SDK at this moment ….

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4 minutes ago, GSalden said:

That good is the MSFS SDK at this moment ….

Prosim had the same issues with P3D if they weren't able to magically solve it. In P3D, Check SYS PAGE on lower DU and report if you see elevator movement while CMD A/B is activated. I'm guessing you will only see ailerons being manipulated.....

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5 minutes ago, SAS443 said:

Prosim had the same issues with P3D if they weren't able to magically solve it. In P3D, Check SYS PAGE on lower DU and report if you see elevator movement while CMD A/B is activated. I'm guessing you will only see ailerons being manipulated.....

This only happens over the Alps. As the SDK is still far from enhanced this might be the only way correcting turbulence. Prosim for MSFS is still in preview mode.

When PMDG is ready to release their 737 then the MSFS SDK might be good enough for Prosim to solve this…

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Those trim wheel bearings sound dry (and yes, I know it is deliberately meant to make an audible sound to correspond with movement)!

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30 minutes ago, JonP01 said:

Those trim wheel bearings sound dry (and yes, I know it is deliberately meant to make an audible sound to correspond with movement)!

You are hearing the gear from the trimwheels motor 😊 

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I just bumped into this the other day looking stuff up.   "Nevada triangle." Look it up it. 

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I thought as well these turbulence over the Alpes are not realistic, however last month I have flown from Düsseldorf to Rome for holidays and we have flown over the Alpes, the turbulence over the Alpes was pretty heavy indeed even IRL. So maybe this how supposed to be? 

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Looks ok to me ?

Have you guys ever flown in gravitic waves ?

When you encounter this sort of situation first thing to check is any published SIGMET for the area. Don't know the date when the OP made his flight, but he could check it for that day / time over the Alps.

Just one recent example:

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/vistara-mumbai-kolkata-flight-passengers-7348273/

 

 

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In MSFS with the Prosim 738 every flight over the Alps shows this turbulence behavior . I have made many flights over the Alps myself in real life and never experienced this.

Imagine the passengers 🤢

If I am correct yaw damping does not work yet for Prosim in MSFS…

 

 

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Well, I can't tell - never used Prosim

Clumsy to uninstall with all of that Hardware you have there ... Nah, not for me 😁

Edited by jcomm

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1 hour ago, GSalden said:

I have made many flights over the Alps myself in real life and never experienced this.

I respectfully beg to differ Gerard, I have a few RL hundred hours over the Alps, where I live...

There are numerous threads regarding turbulences being "overdone" in MSFS. it could be demonstrated in a number of cases that flights were made in a zone flagged with a "Severe Turbulence" Sigmet and reported as unrealistic by "pilots"! 

And even without one, flying over high relief is never a comfortable ride. The rendering of such phenomenon in a simulator is far from easy to replicate, personally I prefer a so called "overdone" replication than a "tamed" one, that reminds desk-chair pilots (especially GA ones) that they should remain alert over mountainous areas and disconnect their beloved A/P. But of course, this is only a matter of opinion.

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