10 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

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Interesting…

Wonder why your version acts differently and requires the rudder trim?

When as for me, and others on this thread, regular right rudder, as with any other GA aircraft, is enough not requiring the trim.

The other place you can check is the manifest.json file in the specific aircraft folder.

I also used to set rudder trim right for take off but this usually resulted in having to retrim rudder A LOT to the left immediately after take off which resulted in chaotic and dangerous flying. So now I also simply use my feet for a proper take off after which I can enjoy a relaxed climb where I can set rudder trim at ease. Take offs are rather easy with this plane now. I even often forget to set the take off flaps and sometimes get the idea that taking off is even easier without flaps...!

The Kodiak is very sensitive on the load and the resulting CG. If you fly default empty with default 50% fuel it will be easy without trim. If you load it to the limit, for example if flying for a VA with Pirep tool that is checking your actual load you will have to trim both rudder and stab by the book and use the flaps as recommended, otherwise you won't make it. The initial default version was bugged but its working smooth now with the latest. And I honestly don't know why someone would use or even need a mod for this plane?!

Cheers

T.

17 minutes ago, Torsen said:

The Kodiak is very sensitive on the load and the resulting CG. If you fly default empty with default 50% fuel it will be easy without trim. If you load it to the limit, for example if flying for a VA with Pirep tool that is checking your actual load you will have to trim both rudder and stab by the book and use the flaps as recommended, otherwise you won't make it. The initial default version was bugged but its working smooth now with the latest. And I honestly don't know why someone would use or even need a mod for this plane?!

Cheers

T.

I’ll have to try that today with a load using Skypark.

Yesterday, I was empty with the default 50% fuel. Just “kicking the tires” doing touch and goes in pattern.

I’ll fly an actual trip with cargo to see what difference it makes.

Thanks for the input, as you say this may be the difference in experience for me so far.

 

 

Do watch that CG, I managed to start a flight with the aircraft unbalanced. It wasn't so bad that it was unmanageable but I could tell something was badly off with the handling while in cruise.

I thought about winds, rudder, my own visual perspective. Got onto the ground and opened up the weights menu and the CG was well off.

Not only did I feel a little silly, but I also surprised myself that I know an aircraft well enough to tell that something is wrong. 

12 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

My Kodiak needs about 5 clicks of right rudder with normal load. and once in cruise I go back to neutral trim and it stays coordinated. The Missionary Pilot uses heavy right rudder trim on takeoff. 

Are you also using those right rudder clicks on landing?  I am experiencing severe pull to the left upon touchdown and rollout, unlike any other aircraft. I cannot apply any significant right rudder on short final or at flare.  I am loaded with a 225 lb pilot, 190 lb co-pilot, and a pair of pax at 130 lbs each in the first forward facing row.  150 lbs of additional load.

Edited January 24, 20224 yr by fppilot

49 minutes ago, fppilot said:

Are you also using those right rudder clicks on landing?  I am experiencing severe pull to the left upon touchdown and rollout, unlike any other aircraft. I cannot apply any significant right rudder on short final or at flare.  I am loaded with a 225 lb pilot, 190 lb co-pilot, and a pair of pax at 130 lbs each in the first forward facing row.  150 lbs of additional load.

You will rudder trim in every flight phase and on bigger throttle changes... Usually you would on approach with low torque be near or on neutral rudder trim (excluding wind component here) -> as the manual states "Pitch for rudder to centre the slip indicator". Me mostly on neutral or just counteracting cross winds slightly with rudder trim.

Cheers T.

7 minutes ago, Torsen said:

You will rudder trim in every flight phase and on bigger throttle changes... Usually you would on approach with low torque be near or on neutral rudder trim (excluding wind component here) -> as the manual states "Pitch for rudder to centre the slip indicator". Me mostly on neutral or just counteracting cross winds slightly with rudder trim.

Cheers T.

So, you’re flying mostly with no rudder trim and manual rudder as needed only? Per the last sentence of your reply?

Edited January 24, 20224 yr by Los

11 minutes ago, Torsen said:

You will rudder trim in every flight phase and on bigger throttle changes... Usually you would on approach with low torque be near or on neutral rudder trim (excluding wind component here) -> as the manual states "Pitch for rudder to centre the slip indicator". Me mostly on neutral or just counteracting cross winds slightly with rudder trim.

Thank you for your display of flying knowledge.  I am aware of how to fly. I am having zero difficulty airborne.  As I stated, the issue I am encountering is at touchdown and rollout.  And only with this model. I am not needing such hard right rudder during flight, final, or flare.  If it was the case with other aircraft I would closely check my rudder control calibration and settings.  Actually I have checked them.

Edited January 24, 20224 yr by fppilot

3 minutes ago, Los said:

So, your flying mostly with no rudder trim and manual rudder as needed only?

No, as I said, each flight phase has its trim range on rudder plus you have to check for wind components affecting the trim. More on the takeoff, a bit less on climb, even less or netrual on cruise. Only on approach and landing I will be mostly on neutral rudder trim and using the pedals only.

Cheers T.

6 minutes ago, Torsen said:

No, as I said, each flight phase has its trim range on rudder plus you have to check for wind components affecting the trim. More on the takeoff, a bit less on climb, even less or netrual on cruise. Only on approach and landing I will be mostly on neutral rudder trim and using the pedals only.

Cheers T.

Oh, OK gotcha!

I put in about a click or two of right rudder trim, but I got me a pair of swanky rudder pedals now, which I'm working like a ballet dancer performing in the Nutcracker. 

2 hours ago, fppilot said:

Are you also using those right rudder clicks on landing?  I am experiencing severe pull to the left upon touchdown and rollout, unlike any other aircraft. I cannot apply any significant right rudder on short final or at flare.  I am loaded with a 225 lb pilot, 190 lb co-pilot, and a pair of pax at 130 lbs each in the first forward facing row.  150 lbs of additional load.

Neutral rudder trim on landing, no problem staying right on centerline. 

It probably depends a lot on the type of rudder control you use, if you have a joystick with a twist function, it will probably be much more sensitive than with decent rudder pedals.