Has anyone heard anything or have any information about quality wings and their 787 ?

The last I heard was they were working on bringing the 787 to MSFS to be released 2021and also working on further development on the P3D 787.

I’ve looked on Facebook, twitter and all those other social media platforms  where young trendy people like to hang out , and the last post I can find by QW was in March 2021.

I do hope nothing bad has happened. With all the trouble PMDG are having with bringing their 737 to MSFS I can’t help but worry. QW are a smaller company and the 787 is nothing if not complex, I’m wondering what could have happened and if they’ve hit a wall.

The P3D 787 has such a great foundation and potential, its a superb add on aircraft as is, but with a bit of extra work and development polish on its rough edges it could truly shine.

I really hope this aircraft development  and indeed this company are still there somewhere locked away hard at work , but the silence is starting to worry me a bit I must admit.

In milviz’ s video they talk about developers announcing products for MSFS and then disappearing, I have a hunch they were talking about QW.

If anyone from QW or anyone with any information is reading this just a quick flash of the landing lights to let us know you’re still there would be greatly appreciated.

Last update I can see from QW is in their forum in October 2021, the end of which said:

"Really making that Q2 2021 estimate was against the grain for us, but we had made so much initial progress we made a presumption of MSFS stability which did not continue. MSFS is clearly still in development (PMDG used the term moving target).  Though PMDG mentioned the impact of the V5 update on their development. In reality just about every MSFS update has affected development for just about every aircraft addon dev. 

We have refocused some of our efforts, we feel better being silent until we have something tangible to announce."

They are still around,why dont you log on to their forums,maybe better to ask on there.

Gary.

Oh that’s great news thanks , so glad to hear they’re still at work.

I did take a look at their forums but I must have missed that post, all I could see was other people asking for updates which had gone unanswered.

I’ll now quietly  look forward to their next service pack, at least I now know they’re still around.

Thank’s for putting my mind at rest , I’m a big fan of their work.

 

I think some of the complex aircraft developers put the cart before the horse when they demoted P3D. It was at least highly likely, if not inevitable, that MSFS would be an unfit platform for third party developers for some time after the initial hype over MSFS. The initial SDK wasn't even half complete at launch, anyone who went through the growing pains of FSX knows that this is how it goes.

So developers made announcements about how wonderful MSFS would be, and almost promised that in only a short time you would be able to buy their products on the shiny new platform. Many customers took them for their word and stopped spending on P3D and X Plane products in anticipation of having to buy everything for MSFS. Result being that developers have almost no income while they work on getting MSFS products released - or they release too early only to have to refund large numbers when it doesn't work properly.

A more sensible approach IMO would have been to be very sceptical about MSFS and work on it in the background while still doing enough to keep other platforms alive and thriving. The odd service pack, new feature etc, which don't take huge amounts of time to develop, could keep the faithful happy and the income flowing.

Several companies like Aerosoft, Quality Wings and PMDG basically abandoned P3D altogether, and hardly even post in the forums or provide proper support for existing customers.

I don't know if this was unavoidable, but the lack of awareness of how MSFS operates in the software market should have made people think first. They abandoned P3D and made their beds........my sympathy is pretty low. Long live P3D, which for me with HF2 is pretty darn good.

I have just reinstalled the QW787 for P3Dv4.5, so I will soon be taking the Rolls Royce Trent powered 787-8 out for a spin

9 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I have just reinstalled the QW787 for P3Dv4.5, so I will soon be taking the Rolls Royce Trent powered 787-8 out for a spin

The exterior model is really top notch. You can include a few settings in the .ini file that make things more realistic like cold&dark panel, IRS align time, descent forecast altitudes etc. I have included  mine below and hope it helps.

IrsAlignSecs=360
MinAptRwyLen=5500
EfBFPlanOverlay=1
WeightUnit=KGS
ArmPauseAtTod=1
Arm1xAtTod=1
DisplayUnitBrightness=0.6
HudBrightness=0.8
AltCall5=1
RemoteCdu=1
HiFiConnectDir=C:\Users\Lawre\Documents\Prepar3D v5 Add-ons\ActiveSkyP5
TransAlt=10500
CostIndex=75
LoadFuelonAircraftLoad=1
CduAutoCalcVspeeds=1
CduAutoCalcZfw=1
LoadPanelStateonAcLoad=1
PanelState=coldanddark.pnl
calcpayload=1
ArmPauseAtDistFromDest=1
CabinAirTempUnit=C
DescForecastAlt1=40000
DescForecastAlt2=34000
DescForecastAlt3=24000
DescForecastAlt4=12000
mute_on_lost_focus=0
EfbChartQlty=3

 

The tutorials for the PMDG airliners suggested figures for the cost index, but I did not know what to use for the 787. I guess it does not really matter (I used 35 before, like the 777).

2 hours ago, simfan1983 said:

I think some of the complex aircraft developers put the cart before the horse when they demoted P3D. It was at least highly likely, if not inevitable, that MSFS would be an unfit platform for third party developers for some time after the initial hype over MSFS. The initial SDK wasn't even half complete at launch, anyone who went through the growing pains of FSX knows that this is how it goes.

So developers made announcements about how wonderful MSFS would be, and almost promised that in only a short time you would be able to buy their products on the shiny new platform. Many customers took them for their word and stopped spending on P3D and X Plane products in anticipation of having to buy everything for MSFS. Result being that developers have almost no income while they work on getting MSFS products released - or they release too early only to have to refund large numbers when it doesn't work properly.

A more sensible approach IMO would have been to be very sceptical about MSFS and work on it in the background while still doing enough to keep other platforms alive and thriving. The odd service pack, new feature etc, which don't take huge amounts of time to develop, could keep the faithful happy and the income flowing.

Several companies like Aerosoft, Quality Wings and PMDG basically abandoned P3D altogether, and hardly even post in the forums or provide proper support for existing customers.

I don't know if this was unavoidable, but the lack of awareness of how MSFS operates in the software market should have made people think first. They abandoned P3D and made their beds........my sympathy is pretty low. Long live P3D, which for me with HF2 is pretty darn good.

Well said!!

17 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

The tutorials for the PMDG airliners suggested figures for the cost index, but I did not know what to use for the 787. I guess it does not really matter (I used 35 before, like the 777).

My desire for a full simulation does not extend to the cost index - I set it to 75 in all aircraft to keep it simple! You can change it inflight - as for the PMDG and FSLabs - if you have a desire to change your arrival time / fuel usage.

57 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

The tutorials for the PMDG airliners suggested figures for the cost index, but I did not know what to use for the 787

It seems to be around in the 20-30 region at the moment in the real world.

Virtual fuel is cheap. CI for me is always 100 on any aircraft. 

I use 45 on Boeings and 35 on Buses. Gives best performance clm, crs and desc. and fuel burn.

In the good old days before the accountants started running airlines we used to fly the 747-400 at a standard CI of 250 and cross the pond at a fixed mach of .86, you know kind of like the way Boeing actually designed it fly, but of course the accountants know better.

Edited January 25, 20224 yr by jon b

Any need for a reinstall of B787 after p3dv5.0 towards 5.3HF2?

Thanks for the configs above (HDR ON?,EA?)

Michael Moe

Edited January 25, 20224 yr by Michael Moe