6 hours ago, RALF9636 said:

You can change the aircraft in APL2.

For example you can get the licenses for the ATR and the CRJ and use the Aerosoft CRJ to also fly the routes that use an ATR in the real world. 

It won't trip something if your block time or fuel use is wrong for the airplane you're supposed to fly on the route? Interesting!

 

34 minutes ago, eslader said:

It won't trip something if your block time or fuel use is wrong for the airplane you're supposed to fly on the route? Interesting!

 

Similarly, does anyone know if the JF BAE 146 is represented in APL 2 or can be somehow substituted in?

Does APL2 support the CJ4? Business flying? 

10 minutes ago, pobee10 said:

Similarly, does anyone know if the JF BAE 146 is represented in APL 2 or can be somehow substituted in?

It's based on what the airline that hired you flies--I recall reading you can't fly something the airline your flying doesn't fly and I saw nothing about substituting.

Is this program worth 36 euros?  I fly mainly in MSFS, but as we know, there are not too many aircraft. Maybe it's better to wait for the free LukeAirTool until it introduces the virtual airlines?

16 minutes ago, Noel said:

It's based on what the airline that hired you flies--I recall reading you can't fly something the airline your flying doesn't fly and I saw nothing about substituting.

bummer, thanks

I just submitted this suggestion on their FB page:

Hello SBW, I bought APLv2 and it's very nice and I can recommend it. For MSFS, it has one very serious and basic shortcoming for MSFS in particular and here's where I'm coming from, and I'm not alone in this opinion: because you're 'stuck' with only flying for one airline, especially as a newer pilot, you end up not using the vast world of incredible scenery that MSFS offers like no other sim. Others on Avsim have pointed to this and find it enough of a deterrent to avoid buying APLv2. I think either of these two options could solve this if you could implement one or both: 1, give users the ability to be hired by multiple airlines simultaneously so that any schedule can be flown anytime; or 2, allow users to be multiple pilots so that each pilot created can fly for the airline that hires them. Right now as a user with only 6 flights under my belt I'm still stuck in one plane and one regional carrier and that is very limiting, and so detracts from otherwise an effective program. Please consider these changes I know it will help APLv2 because more accepted among a larger group of potential buyers. Thanks and I'm curious about your reaction to this suggestion. Cheers

 

I hope they consider this in one fell swoop it could solve these limitations.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Write to Simbitworld

59 minutes ago, Noel said:

It's based on what the airline that hired you flies--I recall reading you can't fly something the airline your flying doesn't fly and I saw nothing about substituting.

I think I’ve read the opposite on their Discord but haven’t tried it out yet.  I was planning to substitute the 146 for the CRJ.  I already belong to an airline and have the CRJ license.  

1 hour ago, Noel said:

It's based on what the airline that hired you flies--I recall reading you can't fly something the airline your flying doesn't fly and I saw nothing about substituting.

That is not correct. You can change the aircraft in the APL2 Flight menu, before you click on Simbrief. So APL will expect you to fly the aircraft you want. 

It works flawlessly. I flew several flights that use an ATR72 in the real world with the Aerosoft CRJ700. No issues.

For this to work you need the license for the ATR family to be offered the airline and route and the license for the CRJ family to choose the CRJ700 in the Flight menu.

Even without the CRJ family license you can use the CRJ in the sim even though APL2 expects you to fly the ATR72. It seems not to check the aircraft type in the sim. But that's a kind of cheating and probably not supported and might lead to some issues.

Edited May 5, 20224 yr by RALF9636

37 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

That is not correct. You can change the aircraft in the APL2 Flight menu, before you click on Simbrief. So APL will expect you to fly the aircraft you want. 

It works flawlessly. I flew several flights that use an ATR72 in the real world with the Aerosoft CRJ700. No issues.

For this to work you need the license for the ATR family to be offered the airline and route and the license for the CRJ family to choose the CRJ700 in the Flight menu.

Even without the CRJ family license you can use the CRJ in the sim even though APL2 expects you to fly the ATR72. It seems not to check the aircraft type in the sim. But that's a kind of cheating and probably not supported and might lead to some issues.

Okay interesting.  Here's what's in the manual and to me implies if you don't have the license that matches the particular airline's fleet no can do:

Important to mention is that for example, if you want to apply to Wizz Air, but you do not own any aircraft license for this airline’s fleet, the following message will pop up informing you:  YOU CANNOT APPLY FOR A JOB WITH THIS COMPANY...YOU DO NOT OWN ANY AIRCRAFT LICENSES FOR THE AIRCRAFT IN THIS AIRLINE'S FLEET.  To be able to apply to Wizz Air, you will have to check this airline fleet by clicking the Details button, and after you see the aircrafts for this airline, you may go to Shop Page and purchase them first.

Doesn't mention substituting but as you say it works so sounds like it may well be a useful oversight!  Thanks!

2 hours ago, Noel said:

Okay interesting.  Here's what's in the manual and to me implies if you don't have the license that matches the particular airline's fleet no can do:

Important to mention is that for example, if you want to apply to Wizz Air, but you do not own any aircraft license for this airline’s fleet, the following message will pop up informing you:  YOU CANNOT APPLY FOR A JOB WITH THIS COMPANY...YOU DO NOT OWN ANY AIRCRAFT LICENSES FOR THE AIRCRAFT IN THIS AIRLINE'S FLEET.  To be able to apply to Wizz Air, you will have to check this airline fleet by clicking the Details button, and after you see the aircrafts for this airline, you may go to Shop Page and purchase them first.

Doesn't mention substituting but as you say it works so sounds like it may well be a useful oversight!  Thanks!

Maybe you mix up different things here.

Let's make up an example. You purchased the CRJ family license because you want to fly the Aerosoft CRJ900 for Alaska Airlines (which exclusively operates A320/A321 and B737 IRL).

To be able to apply for Alaska Airlines you need at least one of these additional licenses: A320 family or B737 family. There is no way around that.

Let's say you have additionally purchased the A320 family license. After you successfully applied for Alaska Airlines, you will only be able to fly routes that Alaska Airlines use the A320 or A321 for IRL. You will not be scheduled for flights which Alaska Airlines uses the B737 IRL. No way around that (unless you also purchase the B737 family license).

Let's say you are scheduled for a flight for which an A321 is used IRL. Now you can easily change the aircraft to a CRJ900 in the Flight Menu and APL2 will expect you to fly the route with a CRJ900.

Finally let's say haven't even purchased the CRJ family license. With only the A320 family license you won't be able to change the aircraft to the CRJ900 in the Flight Menu. Nevertheless it might be possible to load the CRJ900 in the sim and make the flight without APL2 noticing you are using the wrong aircraft. I only tested that once and found no issues, but obviously that is not how APL2 is supposed to be used and issues might occur.

 

6 hours ago, born2fly75 said:

I think I’ve read the opposite on their Discord but haven’t tried it out yet.  I was planning to substitute the 146 for the CRJ.  I already belong to an airline and have the CRJ license.  

Kind of a minor technicality for me one way or the other.  What I care most about is being able to fly all over the world and in which plane isn't so much of a concern, for me.   I only use the B78X-HD and CRJ700 and at some point soon PMDG 737.  I will poke around on their Discord channel and see if there is any interest in addressing this severe limitation.  I've not down 7 flights, and still stuck in a small region of the US and that won't change w/ the next schedule, though you can do random flights, sort of, within your airline's regional hubs.

Going to take the dip into APLv2 - been looking for something toward an achievement system and this looks as close as I have seen to what I think would be interesting.   Still not a fan of some of the progression (I too would like as much freedom to fly where I want) but I figure I will just take some occasional non - achievement flights when I get bored.

17 hours ago, marcg11 said:

Going to take the dip into APLv2 - (I too would like as much freedom to fly where I want) but I figure I will just take some occasional non - achievement flights when I get bored.

I posted this idea on their Discord and they are going to add a feature which will allow you to fly anywhere but w/o accruing points as it were BUT...it will still score your flights!  This will be great and fix this uber restrictive piece in large part.  

15 hours ago, Noel said:

I posted this idea on their Discord and they are going to add a feature which will allow you to fly anywhere but w/o accruing points as it were BUT...it will still score your flights!  This will be great and fix this uber restrictive piece in large part.  

Here is an idea to incorprate this into the career:

These free flights could be considered simulator training sessions. And the time you accumulate in the simulator will then percentually increase the XP you gain for your real flights. Like the training you can buy in the shop.