July 10, 20223 yr In the meantime we also have FSHud,which is a nice newcomer imho. Very easy to use. It's a bit like default ATC but without its oddities. All the other ATC addons (all two of them LOL) offer too many options, have an ugly or too big interface (imho 😎) and ask to much input (again imho). I like the simplicity and clarity of FSHud. You load a Simbrief plan with one click and off you go. It's a work in progress though so it still has a few problems of its own. But I am using it with the Fenix A320 all the time and it works great.
July 10, 20223 yr On 5/29/2022 at 12:32 PM, Mike S KPDX said: You know, what I really like about Pilot2ATC is... support, Dave is amazing, seems like I get emails back within minutes (even on weekends) easy flight planning, drag and drop on the interactive map and importing plans from pretty much any source excellent SID/STAR planning again being very clear and concise in the map easy wx from any airport airport info at the touch of a button, gates, runways, freqs... the map layout itself with selectable styles These are just a few items. Yeah, I know you may find similar in other programs, but this brings them all home to a single source. Weird is I have the full subscription to Navigraph yet have never really used it (only to have a single source data base the sim and planes). I often bring up the Pilot2ATC app even when doing a VFR flight just for the utilization of the interface. And a side note make sure you get the 'chatter' addon, very very cheap but great ambiance. Don’t forget, it will vector you in to runways that don’t have published approaches Tyson Rose
July 10, 20223 yr 43 minutes ago, tup61 said: In the meantime we also have FSHud,which is a nice newcomer imho. Very easy to use. It's a bit like default ATC but without its oddities. All the other ATC addons (all two of them LOL) offer too many options, have an ugly or too big interface (imho 😎) and ask to much input (again imho). I like the simplicity and clarity of FSHud. You load a Simbrief plan with one click and off you go. It's a work in progress though so it still has a few problems of its own. But I am using it with the Fenix A320 all the time and it works great. Somewhere I read, here on Avsim, that FSHud has a big impact on performance on busy airports. As I am running on an "average" system, this made FShud a no-go for me. I don't see that they have a demo available, so I can't try it. With regard to default ATC, imho it's a RPOS (Royal piece of you-know-what 🙂 ) Kind regards, Hans van WIjhe Acer Predator P03-640 2.10 Ghz Intel 12th Gen Core 17-12700F 64GB memory, Noctua NH-U9S Cooler, 1.02 TB SSD HD, 1.02 TB HD, NVidia Geforce RTX 3070 16GB Memory, Windows 11 (x64)
July 10, 20223 yr I've been considering these very options myself. Hate the outdated, clunky interface of P2ATC when I tried it. I didn't have much luck getting it working well. Not sure if my trial ran out or not to give it a go again. I've been eyeballing PF3 and FSHud as well. Just can't seem to make up my mind. I'm just loath spending more money. One question you guys might be able to help me with. Do any of these programs handle missed approach and holds automatically? I want to fly and have that happen at times to make the flights have some variety.
July 10, 20223 yr 17 minutes ago, Lotharen said: Do any of these programs handle missed approach and holds automatically? FSHud doesn't do that (yet!). Don't know about P2ATC.
July 10, 20223 yr 9 minutes ago, tup61 said: FSHud doesn't do that (yet!). Don't know about P2ATC. P2ATC, doesn't do it "automatically" you have to declare a missed approach but it will vector you to the correct missed approach hold pattern. Tyson Rose
July 10, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, tup61 said: FSHud doesn't do that (yet!). Don't know about P2ATC. So it is planned?
July 10, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, snwboardn said: P2ATC, doesn't do it "automatically" you have to declare a missed approach but it will vector you to the correct missed approach hold pattern. What about holds due to congestion?
July 10, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, Lotharen said: So it is planned? Well... a lot seems to be wished but I am not really sure what exactly is actually planned. That 'yet' mainly was a personal addition because imho FSHud should take care of holds if it ever wants to be considered a full and complete ATC addon. 😉 I do know the developer also wants to add 'everything' you'd expect from an ATC addon but I'm not sure if he will be able to add it all.
July 14, 20223 yr On 7/10/2022 at 10:00 AM, Lotharen said: What about holds due to congestion? Possibly, but I have never seen it. The only annoying thing is since it cannot control AI traffic I have been cleared to land meanwhile the in game ATC is lining up an airplane that I am on final to. Tyson Rose
July 14, 20223 yr Pilot2ATC I bought and have used for the last fews weeks with the "beta" its now a one click to import your simbrief flight plan with SID & STARS. Its great wish I had bough it months ago. This topic have nothing to do with FSHud. Edited July 14, 20223 yr by Nyxx David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
July 14, 20223 yr On 7/10/2022 at 3:00 PM, Lotharen said: What about holds due to congestion? ATC will tell you to hold short for in coming aircraft coming into land. Line up after exit etc. Not had a go around yer. David Murden. MSFS • Fenix A320 • PMDG 737 • MG Honda Jet • 414 / TDS 750Xi • FS-ATC Chatter • FlyingIron Spitfire & ME109G • MG Honda Jet • • Fenix A320 Walkthrough PDF • Flightsim.to • DCS • A10c II • F-16c • F/A-18c • F-14 • (Others in hanger) • Supercarrier • Terrains = • Nevada NTTR • Persian Gulf • Syria • Marianas • • [email protected] All Cores HT ON • 32GB DDR4 3200MHz • RTX 3080 • TM Warthog HOTAS • TM TPR • Corsair Virtuoso XT with Dolby Atmos® • Samsung G7 32" 1440p 240Hz • TrackIR 5 & ProClip •
July 14, 20223 yr On 7/10/2022 at 4:00 PM, Lotharen said: What about holds due to congestion? No holds in P2ATC. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
July 14, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, snwboardn said: The only annoying thing is since it cannot control AI traffic I have been cleared to land meanwhile the in game ATC is lining up an airplane that I am on final to. If you are using AIG, this is easily corrected via TC, been a real good thing for me. CPU: Core i5-6600K 4 core (3.5GHz) - overclock to 4.3 | RAM: (1066 MHz) 16GB MOBO: ASUS Z170 Pro | GeForce GTX 1070 8GB | MONITOR: 2560 X 1440 2K
July 14, 20223 yr 47 minutes ago, Mike S KPDX said: If you are using AIG, this is easily corrected via TC, been a real good thing for me. I am... and I use Traffic controller but they still lined up a plane while I was on final. I am not sure how AIG would know that I am on final and not just flying low around the airport, not like you put in a flight plan to it. Tyson Rose
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