PMDG 737: graphics and fps

[Simicro 247]

Hi,

Sorry I have not had the courage to dig in all the 737 threads.

I have 2 questions:

1. Graphics: regarding the VC, would you say that the graphics are a LITTLE bit improved or MUCH improved compared to the P3D version? I'm especially interested in the textures, PFD and gauges: clarity, crispness, legibility fluidity of display, etc. I don't care about the passengers cabin and I already know that the external model is excellent

2. FPS: my specs are i5 4670K 4.3 Ghz l RAM 32 Gb l GTX 1080 l 2K G-Sync monitor and I achieve 30-40 fps in GA aircrafts. I wonder if my system will be able to run the 737 with decent framerate without lowering too much the graphics sliders.

Thanks.

[David Mills 4,774]

5 minutes ago, Simicro said:

2. FPS: my specs are i5 4670K 4.3 Ghz l RAM 32 Gb l GTX 1080 l 2K G-Sync monitor and I achieve 30-40 fps in GA aircrafts. I wonder if my system will be able to run the 737 with decent framerate without lowering too much the graphics sliders.

I didn't own the P3D version, so I'll just address your second question. My computer specs are very similar to yours except I have the 1070 instead of the 1080. As for FPS, I've been especially pleased with the PMDG 737. You'll pretty much get whatever FPS you're currently getting with any of the default aircraft. No better and no worse. I haven't dumbed down my graphics settings at all for the PMDG.

[Tom Wright 438]

I have a similar spec/vintage machine to yourself, and have no issues with fps with the PMDG 737. Most of my settings are High and I haven't had to make any adjustments for the aircraft, my frame rate is internally locked at 30 and I'm pretty much able to maintain that in most scenarios. I would say this is a very easy aircraft on performance, which is surprising.

The VC texturing is pretty spot on, I'd say its better than the P3D one and pretty on-par with what we have come to expect from MSFS aircraft now. It certainly doesn't disappoint.

 

 

[JYW 2,989]

20 minutes ago, Simicro said:

Hi,

Sorry I have not had the courage to dig in all the 737 threads.

I have 2 questions:

1. Graphics: regarding the VC, would you say that the graphics are a LITTLE bit improved or MUCH improved compared to the P3D version? I'm especially interested in the textures, PFD and gauges: clarity, crispness, legibility fluidity of display, etc. I don't care about the passengers cabin and I already know that the external model is excellent

2. FPS: my specs are i5 4670K 4.3 Ghz l RAM 32 Gb l GTX 1080 l 2K G-Sync monitor and I achieve 30-40 fps in GA aircrafts. I wonder if my system will be able to run the 737 with decent framerate without lowering too much the graphics sliders.

Thanks.

Yes, as David said, most of us find the performance surpringly easy going.  I too have a very similar system to yours (your CPU is a little faster, my 1080 is a Ti model).  I have perfect, fluid simulation in the 737.   Around 35-40 FPS but it's smooth and stable.

On the textures - this one is more contentious.  Although they are rendered in the MSFS engine, which adds a certain sheen or enhancement to things, I have to say that I find the VC textures just a little disappointing. They could be sharper and a little more high fidelity (I'm not referring to tex resolution settings in MSFS either; but the source textures in the aircraft's folder.   Very usable and pleasant environment but an area that could perhaps be improved.

Edited June 5, 2022 by JYW

[Gazzareth 824]

3 minutes ago, Tom Wright said:

The VC texturing is pretty spot on, I'd say its better than the P3D one and pretty on-par with what we have come to expect from MSFS aircraft now. It certainly doesn't disappoint.

I would agree with that. Until you start flying at night, then it blows P3D away IMHO..... especially since the frame rate doesn't completely bog down at night even in weather....

G

[Fiorentoni 4,347]

18 minutes ago, Simicro said:

Hi,

Sorry I have not had the courage to dig in all the 737 threads.

I have 2 questions:

1. Graphics: regarding the VC, would you say that the graphics are a LITTLE bit improved or MUCH improved compared to the P3D version? I'm especially interested in the textures, PFD and gauges: clarity, crispness, legibility fluidity of display, etc. I don't care about the passengers cabin and I already know that the external model is excellent

2. FPS: my specs are i5 4670K 4.3 Ghz l RAM 32 Gb l GTX 1080 l 2K G-Sync monitor and I achieve 30-40 fps in GA aircrafts. I wonder if my system will be able to run the 737 with decent framerate without lowering too much the graphics sliders.

Thanks.

1. The graphics themselves are a little bit improved (it was already pretty good in P3D), but the VC looks vastly better because of the MSFS lighting. PFD and gauges I think are the same level of quality as in P3D. Didn't notice any problem with them in P3D either in regards to legitbility, so...

2. Yes it will absolutely run well. Of course FPS depend on where you fly with how much scenery and how much AI traffic... but in general it's a very good performance for a study level airliner.

[Ricardo41 5,959]

54 minutes ago, Simicro said:

1. Graphics: regarding the VC, would you say that the graphics are a LITTLE bit improved or MUCH improved compared to the P3D version? I'm especially interested in the textures, PFD and gauges: clarity, crispness, legibility fluidity of display, etc. I don't care about the passengers cabin and I already know that the external model is excellent

Before you hit the buy button, go to youtube and compare Fenix A320 texturing to what PMDG offers - compare and contrast and come to your own conclusion. A few days ago, I posted a link to a "walkaround" video of the PMDG. As I said, make up your own mind. 

Edited June 5, 2022 by Ricardo41

[Tom Wright 438]

6 minutes ago, Ricardo41 said:

Before you hit the buy button, go to youtube and compare Fenix A320 texturing to what PMDG offers - compare and contrast and come to your own conclusion. A few days ago, I posted a link to a "walkaround" video of the PMDG. As I said, make up your own mind. 

Swings and roundabouts. The Fenix performs at up to 10fps less than the PMDG, so I guess it's what's most important to you.

[Kilo60 660]

1 hour ago, Simicro said:

Hi,

Sorry I have not had the courage to dig in all the 737 threads.

I have 2 questions:

1. Graphics: regarding the VC, would you say that the graphics are a LITTLE bit improved or MUCH improved compared to the P3D version? I'm especially interested in the textures, PFD and gauges: clarity, crispness, legibility fluidity of display, etc. I don't care about the passengers cabin and I already know that the external model is excellent

2. FPS: my specs are i5 4670K 4.3 Ghz l RAM 32 Gb l GTX 1080 l 2K G-Sync monitor and I achieve 30-40 fps in GA aircrafts. I wonder if my system will be able to run the 737 with decent framerate without lowering too much the graphics sliders.

Thanks.

 

Depends...

 

What settings are you running the game at to get those FPS and are you at 100% AI AC and flying in/out of3rd party large Airports?

Edited June 5, 2022 by Kilo60

[threexgreen 3,156]

I see you're interested in the VC textures, but since the external textures have been mentioned, it's fair to point out that these will be updated and improved.

 

[David Mills 4,774]

As I mentioned above, I didn't own the P3D version. But in comparing the clarity of the cockpit panels to the default MSFS aircraft panels: the text in the PMDG displays is much easier for me to read than, say, the Longitude (which I love) or the Cessna 172. Because I suffer very poor vision, the enhanced clarity of the PMDG display was the first thing I noticed and appreciated about the new 737.

[Simicro 247]

Thank you all for the great replies. Much appreciated! My synthesis is that:

• Overall everybody is happy with the PMDG 737
• The graphics are on par with the P3D version or a little bit improved, but can be sharper and a little more high fidelity
• FPS wise, there is no noticeable impact. Kudos to PMDG who met the challenge to make a simulation running smoothly on old/vintage rigs. And the same to Asobo since PMDG has probably leveraged on the native fluid property of MSFS

Thanks again to all, my questions have been answered.

At this time, having the P3D version of the 737 and many payware sceneries, the whole still providing to me a consistent, immersive and enjoyable flying experience, I think I will wait some time before hitting the Buy button for the MSFS version.
(I also want to see if there will be some significant improvements for the PMDG 777. Yes I know, it's not going to be released before next year).