1 hour ago, Bobsk8 said:

I have no problem staying on the centerline with the Fenix. ???

Bob,

try that with an x-wind component of..., say..., 15 knot, so still well within the limits, or call for an autoland under the same circumstances, and then tell us how it went...

I hope the next update will bring a higher time acceleration. Now it’s only 2x, still way to slow for me when flying from a to b. Don’t have that much time 😆

16 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Bob,

try that with an x-wind component of..., say..., 15 knot, so still well within the limits, or call for an autoland under the same circumstances, and then tell us how it went...

I've seen youtube vids with the problem, but lucky Ive not seen it myself, landed at LGAV with 24kts crosswind only yesterday. All was fine but I never use Autoland. Glad there fixing it for people who see it.

3 minutes ago, mvdb said:

I hope the next update will bring a higher time acceleration. Now it’s only 2x, still way to slow for me when flying from a to b. Don’t have that much time 😆

Depends how far A to be B is, you can do short flight like LPPR to LPPT and thats a IRL A320 TAP route.

Personly ive never use time acceleration in 20 years.

28 minutes ago, tup61 said:

 

LOL One of Bob's favorite hobby's is to post in topics about problems that he doesn't have that problem LOL Better get used to it because he just loves doing that. 😂

Pilot skill maybe?,,,😉.

32 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Bob,

try that with an x-wind component of..., say..., 15 knot, so still well within the limits, or call for an autoland under the same circumstances, and then tell us how it went...

I always fly with real weather, always. The idea of not having a crosswind component when I fly to different airports on every flight, is pretty small. I also don't ever use autoland,so I have no idea what that is like. On Discord, it seems that many have centerline problems are using pedal; disc, which I don't as I already mentioned. I just steer with the rudder pedals 100% of the time. 

Edited July 6, 20223 yr by Bobsk8

1 hour ago, fmloyola said:

Flare is so weird too... 

Interesting. I must admit to having real flare problems (not apropos wide trousers) and struggle not to induce a bounch. I've flown many, many Airbus landings by hand but find the Fenix a real handful to get right. 

14 minutes ago, garydpoole said:

Interesting. I must admit to having real flare problems (not apropos wide trousers) and struggle not to induce a bounch. I've flown many, many Airbus landings by hand but find the Fenix a real handful to get right. 

I have been working on the flare and no bounce and around 150 FPM touchdown for weeks. I get it around 50% of the time, and the other 50% is all over the place. It is not an easy aircraft to land consistently, for me , anyway. I have read several posts on Discord that state that as long as the landing G force is around 1.00-1.05 , it is a smooth landing for the Fenix. 

Edited July 6, 20223 yr by Bobsk8

8 minutes ago, garydpoole said:

Interesting. I must admit to having real flare problems (not apropos wide trousers) and struggle not to induce a bounch. I've flown many, many Airbus landings by hand but find the Fenix a real handful to get right. 

I also used to have a difficult time landing this bird. I don't anymore. I start reducing thrust around 50 feet and begin flaring at around 40. I don't overdo it (2 or 3°) and release pressure on the side-stick. Don't wait for the "retard" call, that's only there as a reminder that you need to have the thrust at idle before you touch down.

I am impressed by fenix help.  I had a problem and 15 hrs later got a work around and a comment that fenix had a problem at the moment with what I had.  No attempt to blame MSFS or the sdk just them taking ownership of the problem.

Edited July 6, 20223 yr by harrry

5 hours ago, Nyxx said:

I find it hits all contracts perfectly, but if you look at the speed its normaly at the bottom of the gauge(limits), it should be "On speed" <

Speed is off in VNAV indeed  🙂

1 hour ago, garydpoole said:

Interesting. I must admit to having real flare problems (not apropos wide trousers) and struggle not to induce a bounch. I've flown many, many Airbus landings by hand but find the Fenix a real handful to get right. 

An intresting comment Gary, The FSL A320 was an handful, the FBW was not, the Fenix is a handful and a landing does need like the FSL your full attention. 

I Retard the throttle back at 50ft but not to idle, about 50%-60% back, start a steady progresive flare from 40ft but it's very subtle. Cut throttle to idle at 20ft. 

If you cut throttle to soon=bounce

If you come in to shallow you can =bounce

Flare to much and you will drop =bounce

So yer, Dont be to hard on yourself  its not a GA or a NG to land. Frankly if in IRL give me a 73 NG to hand land anyday. I thought that about the FSL and now do with the Fenix. But.......the reward from a silky smooth landing trumps all others just becasue its harder to do. You could call it skillfull? The NG lands as easy as a GA, no skill really, or very little. At least the NG does not float like it did in P3D.

Edited July 6, 20223 yr by Nyxx

58 minutes ago, airlinejets said:

I also used to have a difficult time landing this bird. I don't anymore. I start reducing thrust around 50 feet and begin flaring at around 40. I don't overdo it (2 or 3°) and release pressure on the side-stick. Don't wait for the "retard" call, that's only there as a reminder that you need to have the thrust at idle before you touch down.

It would be great to be able to practise these landings in isolation. I could be wrong here, but I don't think that currently it's possible to save a flight, so saving an approach situation, say 15 miles out just isn't an option. 

6 minutes ago, garydpoole said:

It would be great to be able to practise these landings in isolation. I could be wrong here, but I don't think that currently it's possible to save a flight, so saving an approach situation, say 15 miles out just isn't an option. 

No its not, touch and goes/circuits you could do. Land with Flaps 3 if you do.

Edited July 6, 20223 yr by Nyxx

9 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

An intresting comment Gary, The FSL A320 was an handful, the FBW was not, the Fenix is a handful and a landing does need like the FSL your full attention. 

I Retard the throttle back at 50ft but not to to idle about 50% back, start a steady progresive flare from 40ft but it's very subtle. Cut throttle to idle at 20ft. 

If you cut throttle to soon=bounce

If you come in to shallow you can =bounce

Flare to much and you will drop =bounce

So yer, Dont be to hard on yourself  its not a GA or a NG to land.

Good advise. Problem is, it all happens so fast - you really need muscle memory which tends to come with practise, practise. 

Regarding the FBW, I find the flare on this so much more forgiving and satisfying. Maybe a flight model difference, coding difference, Neo difference, I just don't know? 

Edited July 6, 20223 yr by garydpoole

11 minutes ago, garydpoole said:

Good advise. Problem, it happens so fast - you really need muscle memory which tends to come with practise, practise. 

Regarding the FBW, I find the flare on this so much more forgiving and satisfying. Maybe a flight model difference, coding difference, Neo difference, I just don't know? 

It happens "fast" becasue your not use to it, or your brain is not use to it, the more you do it trust me the "slower" it will feel. To the point it makes landing a GA a joke. Slow....mo.....

Trust me when you land the Fenix right you will be over the moon. One of the main reasons I like the Fenix like the FSL is becasue its not easy to land. Do 10 touch and goes in the Fenix then do one in the 152/172 you will feel like going to sleep waiting for the touch down. ZZzzzz. Like most things the harder it is the more rewarding it is to get right. Thats why 95% of my flights are with the Fenix. 

The only other aircrafts in MSFS that give me the same feeling after a perfect landing is the WWII Spit/FG-1D into a very small GA airport.

Edited July 6, 20223 yr by Nyxx