New Small Update SU-10 Beta

[Rene_Feijen 126]

4 hours ago, MrFuzzy said:

That's expected. If they optimized multithreading you won't see any benefits in VR where the GPU is always the bottleneck. In VR you have a much much higher resolution, especially if you have a Reverb G2 or higher specs headset. You just need a more powerful GPU or use DLSS.

 

Well I have an RTX 3090.... In VR: it says Mainthread limited... Atm TAA in DX11 seems a bit more stuttering than DLSS performance. Have to test DX12 still.  And updated today OpenXR Dev Tool. In 2D it works quite well though btw.

 

EDIT: I always run Motion Reprojection on. Now switched if off and a difference! FPS from 22 to 45 fps (expected) but also now all FPS numbers (dev mode) in the green, and limited by GPU now instead of Mainthread.

Edited August 20, 2022 by Rene_Feijen

[Victoroos 205]

7 hours ago, jcomm said:

I would like to test this beta with Dx11 but honestly I am so good with Dx12 that I wouldn't go back to Dx11 unless a specific reason for that, like incompatibility of some addon, forced me to.

I fly 90% Fenix, 5% 737, 3% Kodiak and the rest devided among various default aircfat and Dx12 is no problem, performance or stability wise.

I thought most addons don't work yet with dx12? 

[jcomm 5,961]

2 minutes ago, Victoroos said:

I thought most addons don't work yet with dx12? 

I don't own a lot, I have to agree:

- Fenix A320

- PMDG 737-700 and DC-6

- Carenado Seminole and now V35B

- Kodiak 100

but these all work flawlessly.

[Waldo Pepper 1,953]

Finally had time to sit down and test this version.   Can confirm that DX11 works exceptionally well. 

Smooth,  looks great, and I seem to have my small boat traffic back. 

Well done,  I'd release this.

The V35 is super nice too.  Really like it's visuals the FM seems to be very good.

[turbomax 3,297]

5 hours ago, Waldo Pepper said:

I have to ROFLMBO that the company who released DX12 officially in July of 2015,  can't figure out how to utilize it in their own code 7 years later.

At least they finally decided to ask Nvidia for help.

And I have to ROFLMBO that this user still 2 years after the release of MSFS doesn't understand/know the difference between bugs in Nvidia's DX12 driver and those in the MSFS code itself. At least Asobo finally decided to ask Nvidia to fix the DX12 driver bugs before SU10 final release.

"As per the discussion in yesterday’s Developer Q&A, we are also working with NVIDIA on driver related issues affecting DX12 memory optimizations, and will re-enable those changes once a fix is in place."

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/new-pc-update-1-27-16-0-august-19-2022/537438

Edited August 20, 2022 by turbomax

[Waldo Pepper 1,953]

3 minutes ago, turbomax said:

I have to ROFLMBO that this user still 2 years after the release of MSFS doesn't understand/know the difference between bugs in Nvidia's DX12 driver and those in the MSFS code itself. At least Asobo finally decided to ask Nvidia to fix the DX12 driver bugs before SU10 final release.

"As per the discussion in yesterday’s Developer Q&A, we are also working with NVIDIA on driver related issues affecting DX12 memory optimizations, and will re-enable those changes once a fix is in place."

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/new-pc-update-1-27-16-0-august-19-2022/537438

Bugs in Nvidia's driver?   Citation required,  please.

Edited August 20, 2022 by Waldo Pepper

[hanhamreds 592]

Very quick test earlier using DX11, very smooth with expected FPS for me.

 

I'll test more tomorrow and report back.

DX12 had big frame time issues for me

[Tuskin38 6,597]

12 minutes ago, Waldo Pepper said:

Bugs in Nvidia's driver?   Citation required,  please.

It's in the post you quoted.

[warbirds 555]

I am signed up for the beta but did not get this update?

[Tuskin38 6,597]

1 minute ago, warbirds said:

I am signed up for the beta but did not get this update?

The update wasn't in the sim but only outside of it, you might have missed it.

What's your version number?

[Cpt_Piett 4,788]

13 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

That’s good that DX 11 performance is restored to beta patch 1 performance.  If it’s restored and everything else is stable, I am fine with them releasing SU 10. Them fixing DX 12 performance would be nice, but I’m not sure if they can fix it within the next 2 weeks.

They could indeed do that. But if that will be the case, what have SU10 brought us?

[Cpt_Piett 4,788]

8 hours ago, aktorsyl said:

Same experience here, so also very interested in a SU10 vs SU9 DX11 comparison.

 

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/dx11-performance-survey-1-27-16-0/537442/162?u=cptpiett8113

[turbomax 3,297]

30 minutes ago, Waldo Pepper said:

Bugs in Nvidia's driver?   Citation required,  please.

ATC: say again: "we are also working with NVIDIA on driver related issues affecting DX12 memory optimizations, and will re-enable those changes once a fix is in place.  MSFS Team"

ATC: confirm you have information beta!

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1565642019

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/new-pc-update-1-27-16-0-august-19-2022/537438

 

Edited August 20, 2022 by turbomax

[warbirds 555]

13 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

The update wasn't in the sim but only outside of it, you might have missed it.

What's your version number?

1.27.16.0  How do I get this update then? My other update was automatic.

[Tuskin38 6,597]

11 minutes ago, warbirds said:

1.27.16.0  How do I get this update then? My other update was automatic.

1.27.16.0 is the latest version, so if your window says that, you already have it installed.

Edited August 20, 2022 by Tuskin38