5 minutes ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

They adding the DX12 memory setting back? 

I think that depends on Nvidia when they will deploy the fix (perhaps as driver update)

33 minutes ago, omarsmak30 said:

think that depends on Nvidia

anybody else thinks that depends on Nvidia, please come forward!

I think what Martial Bossard/Asobo thinks:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1565642019?t=0h11m57s

 

Edited August 23, 20223 yr by turbomax

Just now, turbomax said:

anybody else thinks that depends on Nvidia, please come forward, or watch

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1565642019

 

So?

It definitely depends on Nvidia. When DX12 memory optimisation was removed from the bets for Nvidia GPUs only, and folk were concerned, I said don't worry, they will be working on a private build, liaising with Nvidia support to fix the bugs, then they will reinstate it. In the latest stream, they said they are working with Nvidia to fix the bugs then they will reinstate it.

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

I think what Martial Bossard/Asobo thinks:

And he's correct.

1 hour ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

They adding the DX12 memory setting back? 

No they have not. Yet. I’m sure that’s the goal though, and probably the reason for the delay. But for me and many others performance is back on track with the latest build (DX11). I.e. it’s not worse than SU9. 

If they can bring it in fully in terms of DX12, this SU might not be that bad after all. I mean, they did introduce gusts, and improved the depiction of low cloud layers. Oh yes, and DLSS. I haven’t seen many raving about the performance of DLSS though. And WASM. No, that’s been delayed until further notice. But they’re at Gamescom now and will probably introduce some wicked surprise. 

Oh, there was the slight issue of thousands of users being struck by rampant CTDs this weekend, rendering the sim pretty much useless (unless you had all online services turned off), beta and no beta, not sure if you’re up to date on that. It seems to be better now, but no one really knows why. The community managers over on that other forum reported that the CTDs were most likely caused by the lack of users updating their Windows, as well as restarting afterwards.

Double post.

Edited August 23, 20223 yr by Cpt_Piett

2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

The community managers over on that other forum reported that the CTDs were most likely caused by the lack of users updating their Windows, as well as restarting afterwards.

Yep and this is absolute nonsense.

8 hours ago, Krakin said:

Austin has all of those qualifications but X-Plane is getting the stuffing beat out of it by MSFS. It is all about resource management. Not bad for a team of people who didn't have aviation in their blood because MSFS is the best flight sim I ever used 🙂

True 😄

IMHO the thing or the question is: Who will make a better flight sim?

A pilot which can also program or a programmer which can also fly? 

And the examples of Wloch and Meyer show where each path leads.

30 minutes ago, rka said:

And the examples of Wloch and Meyer show where each path leads.

to reduce the success of a Flightsimulator down to only 2 individuals with different aviation background proves nothing. the examples show that an individual like Austin Meyer has no chance against a billion $$ company like Microsoft if they take their FlightSimulator business really serious, for the first time. the magnificent 5 a.k.a. WorkingTitle are a group of 5 professional programmers working on the G1000 NXi alone (about the size of all xplane programmer staff together), plus some 200 programmers for the main program. Wloch got access to the FSX source code, plus Bing maps, plus MeteoBlue, plus Gaya, plus Xbox, plus marketing, plus BlackShark, plus GeoData, plus Microsoft Azure server infrastructure, plus support from many aircraft companies that he would never have were it not with the backing from Microsoft, plus plus plus ..., all free from Microsoft. Wloch alone could never have pulled off MSFS. so the comparison between these 2 individuals proves nothing. Austin and his team of some 5 programmers had to develop everything from scratch with hardly any support from outside. sad net result: a Sisyphos job - he will never ever be able to compete with MS/Asobo.

Edited August 24, 20223 yr by turbomax

32 minutes ago, turbomax said:

to reduce the success of a Flightsimulator to only 2 individuals proves nothing. the examples show that an individual like Austin Meyer has no chance against a billion $$ company like Microsoft if they take their job FlightSimulator real serious. the magnificent 5 a.k.a. WorkingTitle are a group of 5 professional programmers working on the G1000 NXi alone, plus some 200 programmers for the main program. Wloch got access to the FSX source code, plus Bing maps, plus MeteoBlue, plus Gaya, plus BlackShark, plus GeoData, plus Microsoft Azure server infrastructure, plus support from many aircraft companies that he would never have were it not with the backing from Microsoft, plus plus plus ..., all free from Microsoft. Wloch alone could never have pulled off MSFS. so the comparison between these 2 individuals proves nothing. Austin and his team of 5 ? had to develop everything from scratch with hardly any support from outside. sad net result: a Sisyphos job - he will never ever be able to compete with MS/Asobo.

That's not what I meant.  I'll try to explain. It's more about priorities. Warning, it will get a bit esoteric now 😄

IMHO Austin Meyer is a pilot that runs a software company to support his flying. XP will always have a good flight model, the rest is less important. When XP sold well, he went flying instead of hanging around in the office programming stuff.

And Sebastian Wloch is a programmer that learnt to fly to help him make his work better. MSFS had a bad flight model at release but the rest was great. I doubt he is doing many hours in a plane now.

They lead their teams, they are of course not the only ones working for their titles. And both outsource heavily, that's not Asobo exclusive. Asobo hired aviation knowledge, LR should have hired more knowledge outside of aviation.

 

Edited August 24, 20223 yr by rka

Hmm, this is an interesting topic, about whether you need a background in the product you are developing, for it to be a very successful product.  I can think of various cases where the product/company was successful, provided the person leading it had experts to refer to to, and also listened to their experts.

I think the first example is definitely Elon Musk.  Elon Musk never had a background in rocket science or rocket engineering.  He did have a background in physics, which helped.  But Musk hired experts which he then listened to, and despite many initial failures of SpaceX trying to launch their first rockets, they eventually did succeed in launching their rockets. What's important though is that when Musk started, he didn't have a background in rocket science at all, but from what I hear now, Elon Musk knows every inch of his rockets, and as of now, he has acquired the knowledge in rocket science after so many years running SpaceX.  

Then you have Steve Jobs, who never had a background in hardware or electrical engineering.  Steve Jobs did know how to program games though, having worked at Atari before he founded Apple. Having said that, Steve Jobs, who never had a background in hardware or electrical engineering, listened to his partner, Steve Wozniak, who took care of all the hardware & electrical engineering, to put together the first Apple computer, which kickstarted Apple as a company.

Then the weirdest story I have read is Jack Ma, who was an English teacher, and had no background in IT at all.  Despite not having a background in IT, Jack Ma was able to found Alibaba.  Jack Ma definitely listened to the experts around him, since he had no expertise in the field he would succeed in.

Back to the topic about Sebastian and Asobo, I think if they had experts to listen to, that will help a lot.  And it's important that they listen to those experts, if they don't have the knowledge required for the product.  Of course, it helps much more if the person leading that company also has a background in the product they are making.  So if you ask me, Sebastian having a PPL is much better than him not having a PPL. And I think it's a good thing that Sebastian has a PPL now, and that other team members of Asobo also have their PPL, and that Asobo also hired various pilots on their team.

Edited August 24, 20223 yr by abrams_tank

21 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

Back to the topic about Sebastian and Asobo, I think if they had experts to listen to, that will help a lot.  And it's important that they listen to those experts, if they don't have the knowledge required for the product.

I think they are accumulating aviation knowledge and putting it into the sim. Be it from their own experience or hired.

 

25 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

Of course, it helps much more if the person leading that company also has a background in the product they are making.

Yes, but just that can also be a hindrance. Like in LRs case, the boss says he doesn't care about nor do anything except flight model himself.

1 hour ago, rka said:

Yes, but just that can also be a hindrance. Like in LRs case, the boss says he doesn't care about nor do anything except flight model himself.

Well, I agree with you there.  Austin and XP had 10 years to advance XP and prepare for something like MSFS coming down the road, while Microsoft was away from civilian flight simulation. But sadly, there was little innovation in the 10 years in civilian flight simulation in the time that Microsoft was away, and that time was squandered.

In comes MSFS after Microsoft was away for 10 years, and it’s ground breaking technology for flight simulation. Now the competitors to MSFS are trying to play catch up (but who knows if they will be able to catch up).

Edited August 24, 20223 yr by abrams_tank