September 14, 20223 yr Author 42 minutes ago, lzamm said: And this, for many people (including myself), is the problem. Don't get me wrong, I spend most of my flying time in the Zibo but still love MSFS for low and slow. Considering you are downloading ortho every time you use MSFS, I find it odd you think downloading ortho is a problem. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
September 14, 20223 yr Author 1 hour ago, PDX Flyer said: From a visuals standpoint, no XP will probably never look as good as MSFS This is exactly why I posted this image - MSFS can't portray the atmosphere as good as this. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
September 14, 20223 yr 15 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said: Considering you are downloading ortho every time you use MSFS, I find it odd you think downloading ortho is a problem. Do you enjoy downloading the orthos manually?
September 14, 20223 yr Author Just now, Kopteeni said: Do you enjoy downloading the orthos manually? Yes, I love it, because I'm asleep when it downloads. CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
September 14, 20223 yr Yeah, it'll be a cold day in hell before I get back into the headache-inducing ortho game of X-Plane ever again. [MSI MPG X870E Carbon | 9800X3D (PBO +200Mhz / -20 Offset) | Corsair 64GB DDR5 (Custom Timings) | RTX 4090 Founders Edition (Undervolted) | WD SNX 850X 4TB + 4TB | Antec Flux Pro]
September 14, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said: Yes, I love it, because I'm asleep when it downloads. I guess you just highlighted the difference. In MSFS you'd be already flying...
September 14, 20223 yr 27 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said: Considering you are downloading ortho every time you use MSFS, I find it odd you think downloading ortho is a problem. As others have pointed out there's a slight difference between the two and your trying to obfuscate the matter doesn't help your credibility. I'm just saying that the X-plane take on orthos isn't for everybody, and for those it isn't the comparison down low is quite stark. In my opinion x-plane is better served by playing to its strengths - and it has many - rather than being touted as what, for most people, it'll never be.
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September 14, 20223 yr If you post the very same screenshots in the screenshots forum, you get positive reactions - and here in this forum? I'm wondering, why it is this way ... Watch my YT-channel: https://www.youtube.com/@flyingcarpet1340/ Customer of X-Plane, Aerofly, Flightgear, MSFS.
September 14, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Kopteeni said: I guess you just highlighted the difference. In MSFS you'd be already flying... Yeah in msfs I'd be already flying over a city that looks like it has just been nuked. Baber My Youtube Channel http://www.youtube.com/user/HDOnlive
September 14, 20223 yr Well, I have them both and I'm happy with both. I do fly MSFS more, probably due to aircraft availability. I use Xplane for 757/767, MD11, 727, A350 and the A330. I use MSFS for the 737, DC6 and A320 which I fly more often than others. Either way, I am back and forth depending on what I feel like flying. Xplane 12 dropped and I grabbed it. Does not mean that I will stop using MSFS. They both serve my purpose very well. Why lock yourself down to one sim when you can have them all. I also run train simulators as well and have two different train sims. Rick Rick D http://g5flyer.tumblr.com/
September 14, 20223 yr 21 minutes ago, Baber20 said: Yeah in msfs I'd be already flying over a city that looks like it has just been nuked. Sparksy's screenshot stash might not be the most objective source of information when evaluating the current flight sim offering.
September 14, 20223 yr I think that screenshot looks good but can we stop with MSFS is just Orthos. That is 100% wrong. MSFS is streaming scenery which is build by an AI. The AI creates 3D building based on the 2D satellite images in non photogrammetry area. Its a lot more than just Ortho + OSM data. That being said. If you fly at FL380, Ortho are perfectly, it just that it takes a lot of disk space and buy creating them I feel like I am force to only fly in area where Ortho exist. It feels like a limitation to me. https://fsprocedures.com Your home for all flight simulator related checklist.
September 14, 20223 yr 33 minutes ago, Kopteeni said: Sparksy's screenshot stash might not be the most objective source of information when evaluating the current flight sim offering. understatement of the year. https://fsprocedures.com Your home for all flight simulator related checklist.
September 14, 20223 yr Author 2 hours ago, Kopteeni said: I guess you just highlighted the difference. In MSFS you'd be already flying... I would be flying XP12 while asleep? CPU Ryzen 7800X 3D RAM 32GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR5 6000MHz GPU GEFORCE RTX 4090 Monitor AOC AGON AG352UCG UltraWide G-Sync @ 3440x1440 Internal Storage 1TB NVMe PCIe SSD External Storage Three 4Tb HDs
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