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Maybe I missed this on the SU10 update...

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New option in graphics for AMD Fidelity FX Sharpening?  But I have an NVIDIA Graphics card???  

I've googled but nothing conclusive about what this actually does and impact on frames?  Also confused why I see this when I have an NVIDIA card (stupid question?)

Thanks

Thomas Derbyshire

It's an image sharpening algorithm. It is developed by AMD but doesn't depend on hardware from AMD and can be used with all graphics cards.

Works on all cards, no matter the brand.   No noticeable impact on frames here.   Just try it and see if you like it. 

It helps a bit with the blurred glass cockpits caused by DLSS

Chillblast Core i5 14600KF Liquid Cooled RTX 4070 SUPER 32GB RAM. Internet: 1 Gig Fibre. HoneyComb Throttle & Flight System.

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Its an AMD developed algorythm but works on nividia cards as well, basically its a very subtle sharp filter. The option was present before in ReShade, which i use a lot for everything 3d. My guess is that the intensity works together with the post-process sharpen function adjustable in the UserCfg.opt. The file looks a bit different after the recent SU than it did before.

Anybody knows is this in-sim AMD sharpening algorithm works better in terms of graphics quality than the one provided by nvidia externally in its Control Panel (Image Sharpening)?.

Edited by edpatino

Cheers, Ed

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18 minutes ago, edpatino said:

Anybody knows is this in-sim AMD sharpening algorithm works better in terms of graphics quality than the one provided by nvidia externally in its Control Panel (Image Sharpening)?.

Not much in it Ed - it's about the same.  It's just that you can adjust the new one from inside the sim in a matter of seconds.  I believe the Nvidia one doesn't take effect unless you quit the sim and restart it again after adjusting it in control panel.

Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

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6 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

Not much in it Ed - it's about the same.  It's just that you can adjust the new one from inside the sim in a matter of seconds.  I believe the Nvidia one doesn't take effect unless you quit the sim and restart it again after adjusting it in control panel.

Ok, understood, thanks. My experience so far is that the adjustments via the NVCP (I hate using initials, but this is the NVidia Control Panel) are much more effective in terms of quality and effectiveness than the ones made from inside the sim. A perfect example is the Anisotropic filtering which I have set to 16X in the NVCP and produces substantially sharper and a lot better defined taxi lines and apron marks compared to the case on which the filtering is set from inside the sim.

Cheers, Ed

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12 minutes ago, bobcat999 said:

I believe the Nvidia one doesn't take effect unless you quit the sim and restart it again after adjusting it in control panel.

Yes, that's correct

Cheers, Ed

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21 minutes ago, edpatino said:

Ok, understood, thanks. My experience so far is that the adjustments via the NVCP (I hate using initials, but this is the NVidia Control Panel) are much more effective in terms of quality and effectiveness than the ones made from inside the sim. A perfect example is the Anisotropic filtering which I have set to 16X in the NVCP and produces substantially sharper and a lot better defined taxi lines and apron marks compared to the case on which the filtering is set from inside the sim.

Yes, there are some settings in NVCP that can be beneficial.  I remember in FSX and P3D it was almost mandatory to have NVCP set up correctly for those.

Before the recent sharpening slider was added in MSFS, I used 25% in NVCP and it seemed about right (that is in native 4k, which doesn't need so much sharpening).

Rob (but call me Bob or Rob, I don't mind).

I like to trick airline passengers into thinking I have my own swimming pool in my back yard by painting a large blue rectangle on my patio.

Intel 14900K in a Z790 motherboard with water cooling, RTX 4080, 32 GB 6000 CL30 DDR5 RAM, W11 and MSFS on Samsung 980 Pro NVME SSD's.  Core Isolation Off, Game Mode Off.

AMD wanted credit so bad for developing the algorithm they had to put their name in the title without thinking that maybe a vast majority of people would assume their Nvidia graphics card would not support it, when in fact it does. This thread proves it. 

Benjamin Nash

AMD Ryzen 9800X3D, 64GB DDR5 RAM CL30, Asus ROG Strix 4090, Asus ROG x870E Hero Motherboard, Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB PCIE5 NVME SSD, LG OLED C1 48" 

The new AMD sharpening algorithm within the sim works differently from the Nvidia external sharpening tool in that the AMD method selectively sharpens only those areas within the scenery that need it, preventing an over-sharpened look.

Edited by David Mills

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14 minutes ago, David Mills said:

The new AMD sharpening algorithm within the sim works differently from the Nvidia external sharpening tool in that the AMD method selectively sharpens only those areas within the scenery that need it, preventing an over-sharpened look.

Hi David, to which level have you set your AMD Sharpening in-sim?. I have mine set to 100, but I'm using the NVCP Image Sharpening, as said before, set to 0.30 (30%) and it looks good to me, but what you say is true and would like to test for myself.

Cheers, Ed

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25 minutes ago, edpatino said:

Hi David, to which level have you set your AMD Sharpening in-sim?. I have mine set to 100, but I'm using the NVCP Image Sharpening, as said before, set to 0.30 (30%) and it looks good to me, but what you say is true and would like to test for myself.

I have my AMD in-sim sharpening set to 200. But I have the MSFS config file set to "sharpening off." I also use a little extra sharpening on the Nvidia overlay in G-Force Experience. I wouldn't go by my settings, however. I have terrible eyesight and need all the sharpening I can get. If yours looks good to you, that's definitely what you want to stick with. I personally haven't noticed any FPS degradation at all with the AMD sharpening tool. 

Processor: Intel i9-13900KF 5.8GHz 24-Core, Graphics Processor: Nvidia RTX 4090 24GB GDDR6, System Memory: 64GB High Performance DDR5 SDRAM 5600MHz, Operating System: Windows 11 Home Edition, Motherboard: Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX, LGA 1700, CPU Cooling: Corsair H100i Elite 240mm Liquid Cooling, RGB and LCD Display, Chassis Fans: Corsair Low Decibel, Addressable RGB Fans, Power Supply: Corsair HX1000i Fully Modular Ultra-Low-Noise Platinum ATX 1000 Watt, Primary Storage: 2TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, Secondary Storage: 1TB Samsung Gen 4 NVMe SSD, VR Headset: Meta Quest 2, Primary Display: SONY 4K Bravia 75-inch, 2nd Display: SONY 4K Bravia 43-inch, 3rd Display: Vizio 28-inch, 1920x1080. Controller: Xbox Controller attached to PC via USB.

3 minutes ago, David Mills said:

I have my AMD in-sim sharpening set to 200. But I have the MSFS config file set to "sharpening off." I also use a little extra sharpening on the Nvidia overlay in G-Force Experience. I wouldn't go by my settings, however. I have terrible eyesight and need all the sharpening I can get. If yours looks good to you, that's definitely what you want to stick with. I personally haven't noticed any FPS degradation at all with the AMD sharpening tool. 

Thanks so much for sharing the info.

Cheers, Ed

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