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This has happened to me 6 times since getting fsx:The sim crashes at some point during loading requiring a ctrl/alt/delete to get out of it.On the next boot- I get:http://forums.avsim.net/user_files/174754.jpgI try the repair option from the install disks-the repair fails and says I must reinstall.I uninstall everything, then reinstall the sim. It gets all the way to the end of the install-then states there is a 1722 error.I search the web, and download the program to fix this from Ms.Only trouble is today after doing this I get a "failed to delete the token store" error-H result 80004005.Now I have no idea where to go. This is really frustrating, takes hours, and not to mention reinstalling all the add ins a pain.If anyone has any help I'd appreciate it.Thanks!http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatorhttp://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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Have you tried running the error 1722 tool right away, skipping the repair and reinstallation steps? It's only happened to me once, at which time I did just the repair (no reinstall). It still didn't start (like you), and then I ran the error 1722 tool, and everything has been fine since. I'm thinking I didn't even have to go through the repair.Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)N15802 KASH '73 Piper Cherokee Challenger 180

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Right on! All these activation problems are a big turn off for those of us who are yet to embrace FSX. Why MS continues to make life difficult for its long suffering customers is just beyond me.Bruceb

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While I won't dispute the annoyance level, how is MS's activation any more onerous than the "internet activation required" protection built into most payware aircraft and add-ons these days? At least, with MS, they will generally listen to complaints about such problems and come up with a fix, while I expect the response from many such payware companies would be "that's your tough luck -- either re-purchase our product, or do without."

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>While I won't dispute the annoyance level, how is MS's>activation any more onerous than the "internet activation>required" protection built into most payware aircraft and>add-ons these days? At least, with MS, they will generally>listen to complaints about such problems and come up with a>fix, while I expect the response from many such payware>companies would be "that's your tough luck -- either>re-purchase our product, or do without.">I have not found that to be the case. In the few instances where I have had problems, the company helped me rather quickly. Even FSD, whom everybody loves to jump on, when I had problems they worked with me. I didn

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Another case where pirates have it easier then legal customers.As far as I know FS-X RTM was cracked before it even was available in stores. Must be the same for SP1I am in no way promoting piracy but its rediculous that paying customers get al these activation troubles for a badly thought out protection scheme that doesn't work in the first place.Casual players can just install FS-X from a legal owner its unlikely they ever use it more than 1/2 an hour at a time. Pirates use the crack so they aren't bothered by the activation which leave just us the legal paying custommert to suffer this treatment.

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I've had this once, I uninstalled and then deleted my trusted store as instructed in one Microsoft knowledge base article. Too bad, this also killed my activation of other microsoft product (Visual Studio 2005 Express).I am a bit miffed about all this activation bingo.

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>how is MS's>activation any more onerous than the "internet activation>required" protection built into most payware aircraft and>add-ons these days? It's more onerous because it is buggy.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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>>In any case-if anyone has any help I'd appreciate it-as I can>now not get the program to reinstall no matter what I do.>Can't you call Microsoft, and they can give you a new activation code, and you can go from there?I was lucky, when the 1722 error hit me, I still had one "free" activation left. If it happens again (or should I say, 'when' it happens again), I will be in the same boat as you Geof.Be very careful about applying the 1722 "fix". I did that, and destroyed my XP installation. Apparently it deleted the Trusted Store for the OS as well, and undoubtedly something else as the OS was then unbootable. At any rate, I had to return to last known good config to get the OS back up. That was a close call.RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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Geofa,I was hit by the same problem yesterday. Product activation error and then installer error 1722 when trying to run a repair install. Very frustrating. There's tons of posts and info on this problem with FSX if you google. Some advice work for some people and not for other. The amount of time that I need to spend on trying out different approaches to resolve this problem and reinstall add-ons from Eaglesoft, Flight1, FSD, Cloud9, ScenerySolutions, HiFi, FSGenesis, FSAddon, Aerosoft, MegaScenery and so on, feels just too much just now. I'll give it a rest for a couple of days and study some of the advice:1. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/9280802. Deleting all fonts installed by FSX prior to performing an install. I haven't got an url to that tip.I could also revert my computer to a restore point from some time last week, but this will result in some other problems that need to be taken care of.It's sad that MS haven't gathered data about this issue and posted a comprehensive instruction on how to deal with it. For now we have to search and study all posts OT and try to manually remove any trace of what the installer originally did do to our system.SolarEagle, if you read this I would appreciate any feedback you could give us on how you got FSX up and running again ;-)Ulf B :-)

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>>>>In any case-if anyone has any help I'd appreciate it-as I>can>>now not get the program to reinstall no matter what I do.>>>>Can't you call Microsoft, and they can give you a new>activation code, and you can go from there?>>I was lucky, when the 1722 error hit me, I still had one>"free" activation left. If it happens again (or should I say,>'when' it happens again), I will be in the same boat as you>Geof.>>Be very careful about applying the 1722 "fix". I did that,>and destroyed my XP installation. Apparently it deleted the>Trusted Store for the OS as well, and undoubtedly something>else as the OS was then unbootable. At any rate, I had to>return to last known good config to get the OS back up. That>was a close call.>>>Rhett>>AMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS>A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150>gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb>5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster PraetorianAs long as you haven't changed your H/W you shouldn't have to worry about activation. I've had to reinstall 5 times since I got FSX each time with the dreaded 1722 error. Each time after running MS fix, I reactivated, with no further issues! You probably still have your second activation available, it should only have to be used if you change H/W, at least theoretically! It has worked so far for me!! I agree with the sentiment here though, it still a pain in the butt!

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Guys, h/w is not the problem. I had the same thing happen to me. One minute I was flying, crash, when I restarted FSX, I had an activation issue. No changes were made in between. Only thing I can think of is that something got corrupted at the moment of the crash while it was accessing the security code "library". Given that I think I heard that the license is checked every 30 seconds (maybe less) I can understand why, as the head perhaps scratched the area. Kind of stupid if you ask me, but I'm no expert on security.Given that MS is having all these problems and getting so many complaints, hopefully they are figuring out how to improve the system, something like a raid system of 3 or 4 or more copies (similar to how CD's are written) so that if one gets corrupted, others can be checked and the corrupted one rewritten.Thomas[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com] http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]I like using VC's :-)N15802 KASH '73 Piper Cherokee Challenger 180

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>Guys, h/w is not the problem. I had the same thing happen to>me. One minute I was flying, crash, when I restarted FSX, I>had an activation issue. No changes were made in between. >>Only thing I can think of is that something got corrupted at>the moment of the crash while it was accessing the security>code "library". Given that I think I heard that the license>is checked every 30 seconds (maybe less) I can understand why,>as the head perhaps scratched the area. Kind of stupid if you>ask me, but I'm no expert on security.>>Given that MS is having all these problems and getting so many>complaints, hopefully they are figuring out how to improve the>system, something like a raid system of 3 or 4 or more copies>(similar to how CD's are written) so that if one gets>corrupted, others can be checked and the corrupted one>rewritten.>>Thomas>>[a href=http://www.flyingscool.com]>http://www.flyingscool.com/images/Signature.jpg [/a]>>I like using VC's :-)>N15802 KASH '73 Piper Cherokee Challenger 180I didn't say H/W was the problem! I only stated, that unless you change out your Hardware reactivation shouldn't be a problem after running the MS 1722 Fix and reinstall!!

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On Vista there is the "user account control"-which makes all these needless security prompts etc. every time you do something-and restricts access to doing others things. One of the first things I did when I got Vista was turn it off. For some reason when the sim crashed-not only did it lose the activation and then the 1722 error-when I ran the 1722 fix it would not work. Turning off the uac allowed all to work fine-now just a couple hours of work to get the sim back to the way it was. :-)http://mywebpages.comcast.net/geofa/pages/rxp-pilot.jpgForum Moderatorhttp://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/

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>I found the problem-the ual or administrator whatever it is>got turned on somehow by itself when I had the 1st crash.>Turning it off allowed me to finally do the 1722 fix and get>back in business. A pain for sure though.Geofa, I'm happy that you got your problem solved. I downloaded the 1722-fix from MS and ran it. And then I tried to run a repair, but the FSX installer ended with an error (the file Microsoft Flight Simulator X.msi couldn't be found on the DVD). I tried to run the DVD from my other dvd player with the same error. So the DVD seems to be damaged.At this point I took a long pause and considered my options. Would I spend time to get a dvd replacement or buy me a new FSX copy? And eventually run into the 1722 once more? Another dissapointment with FSX is that a lot of the Nordic scenery developers seem to stick to FS2004, and I really love their contribution to making Scandinavia an intresting place in FS. So all this ended up in my descision to install FS2004 and all the nice addons. After installing FSGenesis Europe and Scandiniavian mesh, UT Europe, USA, Canada, GE Pro and Vancouver+, I must say that FS2004 isn't that bad. Maybe I'll return to FSX later on, but for now I'll have a greater flight experience in the Nordic countries and Europe with FS2004. I'll certainly miss the VFR flights with the default ultra light in FSX. But flying the big payware airliners over big cities with AI traffic and still have good fps is a very nice experience.This is only my personal opinion. I still think that FSX in general is a very important and big step towards a better flight experience. But for my personal preferences it's not an option as the situation is right now.Ulf B :-)Core2Duo X6800 OC 3.3GHz, 4GB RAM8800GTX, dual view 1920x1200 and 1280x1024Creative SB X-Fi (Gamer mode)WinXP Pro SP2, FSX SP1

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>>how is MS's>>activation any more onerous than the "internet activation>>required" protection built into most payware aircraft and>>add-ons these days? >>It's more onerous because it is buggy.>>>Rhett I think the "phrase" you should be using, Rhett, is FUBAR! I just suffered ( yet again ) the same problem as the original poster in this thread just before I left for a 7-week stint in Europe. No way was I about to endure the frustration of attempting to deal with M$'s incompetance vis-a-vis the "activation" procedure before I left. Even after SP1 FSX STILL checks activation during initialization. Again, 30 minutes later and again every hour on the hour mark from the initialization of FSX. Each one of these "activation" cycles causes THOUSANDS of disc access over several seconds...thus increasing the likelihood of a "crash" PORKING the installation! For my "fix" I simply Googled for the "obvious workaround". A brief download and overwriting of some DLL's and I was back in the air. I'll go through the "1722 hoops" when I return in September, but then again, maybe not! Paul

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Do you know if an Acronis TrueImage image, if restored, would get around having to re-activate?I have an image saved of a pristine FSX install...RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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Rhett,Probably not. I would be surprised if activation/copy-protection data would be stored in a file residing within the FSX folder structure. And I don't think that any MS expert will give you any advice.Ulf B :-)

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FSX,VISTA,DX10- Why do I keep having Ford Edsel flashbacks? Alex Reid

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Hi all,After manually removing a folder in the WindowsInstaller folder and manually removing all references to that folder in Registry, I finally managed to install FSX and SP1. But no autogen trees, only buildings. Very strange. I did a repair install. Same problem. I then made an uninstall of FSX and manually removed remaining FSX files (the SP1 files I guess). And once more installed FSX and SP1. Seems to work allright now. It took me several days to get FSX up and running again. Now I live with a constant fear that the activation error will return any day. So I have FS2004 up and running as well and use it mainly for flying the PMGD Queen in and out of major cities and VFR flying in the scandinavian countries.I wish I could send an invoice to MS for the time spent on this installer/activation problem ;-)Ulf B :-)

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