Worth it to upgrade to a RTX 4090 for MSFS?

[Garys 209]

On 10/16/2022 at 10:04 AM, Ianrivaldosmith said:

I didn’t. Paid the RRP in the U.K. on day of release. 

Curious... What was your retail price in the uk?

 

[abrams_tank 7,393]

3 hours ago, Ianrivaldosmith said:

4090+7950x through various configs. Man I have to say it looks super smooth 

I saw up to 171 FPS or so in that video.  Quite nice for 4K.

[turbomax 3,269]

37 minutes ago, abrams_tank said:

saw up to 171 FPS or so in that video.  

Gamers in Xanadu-12: shocking horror movie showing today. 

R resticted - Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian.

[abrams_tank 7,393]

39 minutes ago, turbomax said:

Gamers in Xanadu-12: shocking horror movie showing today. 

R resticted - Under 17 requires accompanying parent or adult guardian.

I don’t know how Xanadu-12 can compete with this.

Edited October 17, 2022 by abrams_tank

[Cpt_Piett 4,529]

4 hours ago, turbomax said:

yes but ....

what about all that latency they promised we would see, I totally missed that part. 😊

Yes apparently latency suffers with DLSS3. Which is not really as important for MSFS as with CS:GO or Fortnite.

Anyway I’ll be able to check this and more soon as my 4090 arrived today. Just have to basically rebuild the whole computer as it was a bit tricky getting it to fit in the case 😂

[turbomax 3,269]

30 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

as my 4090 arrived today.

ooooh, what a lucky man he was.

He had a 4090 and women by the score.

 

 

Edited October 17, 2022 by turbomax

[turbomax 3,269]

2 hours ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Just have to basically rebuild the whole computer as it was a bit tricky getting it to fit in the case

shouldn't take long. here is how you do it, incl. disassembly of your 4090 and how to apply some more thermal paste and while we are at it, shorten the card. all in under 5 quick minutes.

standing by for your CapFramX results, using complex aircraft incl. FSLTL at iniBuilds KLAX, just a suggestion.

 

Edited October 17, 2022 by turbomax

[pgde 571]

Doesn't taking apart your GPU void the warranty?

[turbomax 3,269]

43 minutes ago, pgde said:

Doesn't taking apart your GPU void the warranty?

why would anyone except GamersNexus take their GPU apart anyway? he gets those by the truck load from NVidia directly and disassembles them with an Nvidia technician standing next to him. Master Captain Piett  normally takes my posts with a pinch of salt. 😀

Edited October 17, 2022 by turbomax

[Virtual-Chris 682]

I’ve read through this thread and maybe I missed it, but I still have no idea what FPS increase I could expect on 4K Ultra TAA from a 3090 to a 4090… has anyone got any actual numbers?

[Virtual-Chris 682]

On 10/15/2022 at 10:53 PM, Jetman67 said:

Here is a video that explains DLSS3 benefits and limitations well

 

(3) Fake Frames or Big Gains? - Nvidia DLSS 3 Analyzed - YouTube

 

Wayne

Thanks. If I can summarize… you can’t use it if you really need it and you don’t really need it if you can use it. 🙂

I mean, he’s basically saying that you need 100FPS natively before you turn on DLSS3 or you’re going to notice artifacts. At least for me, if I can get 100FPS natively, I don’t need DLSS. 

I guess it’s another lever we have in our toolkit, but for me, I want max image quality at a rock solid 60FPS. 

So back to my previous question… what’s the FPS advantage using TAA? My 3090 gets me 40-50FPS at 4K, Ultra, LOD400 with TAA … is a 4090 going to get me over 60FPS with the 5800x3D feeding it?

[John_Tavendale 453]

I'll get back to you with some numbers soon.

[turbomax 3,269]

57 minutes ago, Virtual-Chris said:

but I still have no idea what FPS increase I could expect on 4K Ultra TAA from a 3090 to a 4090… has anyone got any actual numbers?

in the above youtube he was showing 55-60 fps with TAA at 06:33, no frame generation, A320 spot mode.

[Jetman67 516]

4 hours ago, Virtual-Chris said:

Thanks. If I can summarize… you can’t use it if you really need it and you don’t really need it if you can use it. 🙂

I mean, he’s basically saying that you need 100FPS natively before you turn on DLSS3 or you’re going to notice artifacts. At least for me, if I can get 100FPS natively, I don’t need DLSS. 

I guess it’s another lever we have in our toolkit, but for me, I want max image quality at a rock solid 60FPS. 

So back to my previous question… what’s the FPS advantage using TAA? My 3090 gets me 40-50FPS at 4K, Ultra, LOD400 with TAA … is a 4090 going to get me over 60FPS with the 5800x3D feeding it?

i totally agree, my guess would be that you might sit around 70 FPS with a 4090 but its depends on a lot of factors, I think ill stick with my 3080 TI

[Cpt_Piett 4,529]

12 hours ago, turbomax said:

shouldn't take long. here is how you do it, incl. disassembly of your 4090 and how to apply some more thermal paste and while we are at it, shorten the card. all in under 5 quick minutes.

standing by for your CapFramX results, using complex aircraft incl. FSLTL at iniBuilds KLAX, just a suggestion.

It took ages lol 😂 Had to do a complete rebuild including the custom water loop, messed up royally in many different ways. But got it up and running. 

Haven’t had the chance to try that much yet. Repeated my KAVX-KLAX flight in the King Air and used the same settings as with the earlier benchmark. I didn’t go straight for frame generation, lol. I tried it briefly though. 

Overall impressions: It’s a fast card. Half the GPU render times compared to the 3090. Overall better performance, 27% better average fps on that flight. CapFrameX (3090 then 4090):

Dev mode:

I briefly tried frame generator and got 185fps at KAVX which was a bit unreal. Did a bit of buzzing around with the drone and found it very smooth. In terms of artifacts, first impression is: nothing game-breaking. I’ll do more tests though, probably see if I can load up the Fenix at inibuilds Heathrow with DLSS3.

Oh, the MSI Trio Gaming X has excellent cooling. Pretty much the same as my 3090 which was sandwiched between two EK blocks. Fans are not loud.

And in terms of wattage, it’s not a lot more power hungry vs the 3090. HWiNFO reported an average of 158W and a max of 384W. Here’s a HWiNFO screenshot with average values for the flight:

Edited October 18, 2022 by Cpt_Piett