October 16, 20223 yr 43 minutes ago, GSalden said: For years people wanted crispier textures and a sharper image. Now with DLSL 2 and 3 we are going to re-introduce less sharpness in the distance to get higher fps. Downscaling first and then upscaling. The difference in sharpness of the whole image between TAA abd DLSL 2 and 3 can be seen very clearly, especially in larger screens. The whole idea of DLSS is not to produce higher resolution/more sharpness, but to produce more fps at the expense of resolution/sharpness. Laminar Research customer -- Asobo/MS customer -- not an X-Aviation customer - or am I? 😉
October 16, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, GSalden said: For years people wanted crispier textures and a sharper image. Who are these "people"? Crispier textures - it's a simulator not a roast duck.
October 16, 20223 yr Just now, Ricardo41 said: Who are these "people"? Crispier textures - it's a simulator not a roast duck. You are probably one of them…. 🤓 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 16, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, rka said: The whole idea of DLSS is not to produce higher resolution/more sharpness, but to produce more fps at the expense of resolution/sharpness. Couldn’t said it any better myself … 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 16, 20223 yr 3 hours ago, FBW737 said: Generally specking I'd say that 3090 owners would be looking at an upgrade to 5000 series graphic cards. 4000 series are a good upgrade for anyone on a 2000 series card or lower. Going from a 3090 to a 4090 is very extravagant, unless you can get a very big chunk of change for used 3090 which you can't unless you find a sucker and are willing to take advantage of said sucker. my 3090 cost me over $2500 two years ago. So that's more than $100 bucks a month. That's more than I pay for my unlimited internet access. If I could get $1500 for my 3090 I'd go to a 4090 but I cant so I wont. The problem with buying the best hardware money can buy is that you have to upgrade every few months a great expense. Therein lies your issue. You overpaid for a 3090. I will recoup two thirds of what I paid for mine 2 years ago. Not a bad deal At all. And I certainly won’t overpay for a 4090 either. If you make sure you pay RRP, in 2 years time you’ll only loose roughly one third of its value.
October 16, 20223 yr 43 minutes ago, GSalden said: Couldn’t said it any better myself … Well Using TAA instead of DLSS is not that much of a difference regarding FPS with the game MSFS2020. There is a lot of hate towards the 4090 😂 MSI Tomahawk Z790, I7-13700K, DDR5 6000mhz, MSI 4090, 3x SSD 980 PRO, Corsair 360 Liguid CPU cooler, Corsair H1200V2 power.
October 16, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, altenae said: Well Using TAA instead of DLSS is not that much of a difference regarding FPS with the game MSFS2020. There is a lot of hate towards the 4090 😂 Here in Europe they are almost sold out and the prices are extremely high : € 2000 - € 2900 !! Two years ago I bought my two 3090s for around € 1200 each new. Their price increased up to € 2500…. As long as people buy these extremely high priced cards NVidia will keep the prices high and make them even higher …. 5950x3d 5.4-5.7 GHz - Asus ROG 870 Crosshair Apex - GSkill Neo 2x 24 Gb 6000 mhz / cas 26 - MSI RTX 5090 Gaming Trio OC - 1x SSD M2 6000 2TB - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 1Tb - Corsair 5400 case - Corsair 360 liquid cooling set - 3x 75’ TCL tv. 13600 6 cores @ 5.1 GHz / 8 cores @ 4.0 GHz (hypterthreading on) - Asus ROG Strix Gaming D - GSkill Trident 4x Gb 3200 MHz cas 15 - Asus TUF RTX 4080 16 Gb - 1x SSD M2 2800/1800 2TB - 2x Sata 600 SSD 500 Mb - Corsair D4000 Airflow case - NXT Krajen Z63 AIO liquide cooling - FOV : 200 degrees My flightsim vids : https://www.youtube.com/user/fswidesim/videos?shelf_id=0&sort=dd&view=0
October 16, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, GSalden said: Here in Europe they are almost sold out and the prices are extremely high : € 2000 - € 2900 !! Two years ago I bought my two 3090s for around € 1200 each new. Their price increased up to € 2500…. As long as people buy these extremely high priced cards NVidia will keep the prices high and make them even higher …. Yeah it's completely nuts. If AMD can achieve 4080 rasterizer performance in MSFS with RDNA3, I will go that route. Seems like they will also use less power which would be nice with regard to my PSU and my energy bill. Laminar Research customer -- Asobo/MS customer -- not an X-Aviation customer - or am I? 😉
October 16, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, rka said: Yeah it's completely nuts. If AMD can achieve 4080 rasterizer performance in MSFS with RDNA3, I will go that route. Seems like they will also use less power which would be nice with regard to my PSU and my energy bill. Hopefully it's released this year and it can compete with Nvidia. Besides FS2020 I also play other games. Tried AMD graphic cards many times. There drivers are not that stable compared to Nvidia drivers is my experience. MSI Tomahawk Z790, I7-13700K, DDR5 6000mhz, MSI 4090, 3x SSD 980 PRO, Corsair 360 Liguid CPU cooler, Corsair H1200V2 power.
October 16, 20223 yr 11 hours ago, altenae said: What cpu and memory speed? Intel i9 10850k, 32gb Corsair Dominator ram Asus Maximus Hero X11, Intel i9 10850k, 32gb Corsair Dominator ram, 2tb Corsair mp510 ssd m2, Gigybyte turbo RTX 3090
October 16, 20223 yr 23 hours ago, guibru said: Personally I have the same config as you have the exeption of the 1000W power supply and the graphic card I just went from a 2080 to a 4090 oc. I clearly saw the difference all in ultra 4k and fps locked at 40 stable. In my opinion it is not worth it, to go from a 3090 to a 4090. If you wanted more performance wait to upgrade to DLSS3 under dx12 when it will be fully operational. Another thing before buying a 4090 ensure you that your case is large enough. 😉 Guillaume ASUS ROG STRIX X870 ▪︎ AMD RYZEN 9950X OC 5.5 GHz▪︎ ASUS ROG ASTRAL RTX 5090 OC ▪︎ 32GB 6600 Crucial Ballistix ▪︎ Windows 11 Pro (25H2) ▪︎ 4x Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME SSD (OS Drive et MSFS) ▪︎ Corsair RMX 1000W 80 plus Gold PSU ▪︎ LIAN-LI ODYSSEY X black case
October 16, 20223 yr 2 hours ago, altenae said: There is a lot of hate towards the 4090 😂 GPU envy. Freud would have had a lot to say about it
October 16, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, GSalden said: Here in Europe they are almost sold out and the prices are extremely high : € 2000 - € 2900 !! Two years ago I bought my two 3090s for around € 1200 each new. Their price increased up to € 2500…. As long as people buy these extremely high priced cards NVidia will keep the prices high and make them even higher …. This is unfortunately a reality that is not about to end. Guillaume ASUS ROG STRIX X870 ▪︎ AMD RYZEN 9950X OC 5.5 GHz▪︎ ASUS ROG ASTRAL RTX 5090 OC ▪︎ 32GB 6600 Crucial Ballistix ▪︎ Windows 11 Pro (25H2) ▪︎ 4x Samsung 990 Pro 2TB NVME SSD (OS Drive et MSFS) ▪︎ Corsair RMX 1000W 80 plus Gold PSU ▪︎ LIAN-LI ODYSSEY X black case
October 16, 20223 yr 1 hour ago, Glenn Fitzpatrick said: Freud would have had a lot to say about it you mean about faking it? AMD 7800X3D, Windows 11, Gigabyte X670 AORUS Elite AX Motherboard, 64GB DDR5 G.SKILL Trident Z5 NEO RGB (AMD Expo), RTX 4090, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 2 TB PCIe 4.0, Samsung 980 PRO M.2 NVMe SSD 1 TB PCIe 4.0, 4K resolution 50" TV @60Hz, VR: Pimax Crystal Light + HP Reverb G2 @ 90 Hz, Honeycomb Bravo Throttle Quadrant, be quiet 1000W PSU, Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black air cooler. 60-130 fps. no CPU overclocking. very nice.
October 16, 20223 yr 21 hours ago, GSalden said: With 2x 4K view + Utra + both LOD 200 my 3090 is taxed around 70%…. DX11 or 12? And TAA or DLSS? Eric
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