January 8, 20233 yr 7 minutes ago, micstatic said: Disagree on that. I've gone over 16 before. Run 4k and addons + browser tabs. But haven't seen more than 18/19. Exactly. So 32 is more than you need. Was my point. 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
January 8, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, St Mawgan said: Exactly. So 32 is more than you need. Was my point. Not exactly. You said "even 32 is overkill". If I only had 16 it wouldn't always be enough for me. Hence I don't consider 32 overkill 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
January 8, 20233 yr 32GB is more than enough - I wouldn't run a gaming/simulator PC with less. Edited January 8, 20233 yr by Zangoose Vote to fix transparent sun visors having no effect on the sun glare effect in MSFS at: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sun-shades-sun-visors-not-influencing-light-in-cockpit/691565/
January 8, 20233 yr I started flying MSFS with 16GB installed. I upgraded to 32GB to accommodate a different piece of SW. I can honestly say that I can't tell if it made any practical difference in MSFS. It uses more memory than it did before, but I do not notice any other differences in performance or stability. Anything from 16GB up is good. i9-10850K, ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI), 32GB G.SKILL DDR4-3603 / PC4-28800, GIGABYTE RTX5080 16GB WF OC 3 FAN running 3440x1440
January 8, 20233 yr 57 minutes ago, micstatic said: I've gone over 16 before Just for curiosity, what happens when you go over 16? Does the system bog down, etc.? Thanks. John Wiesenfeld KPBI | FAA PPL/SEL/IFR in a galaxy long ago and far away | VATSIM PILOT P2 i7-11700K, 32 GB DDR4 3.6 GHz, MSI RTX 3070ti, Dell 4K monitor
January 8, 20233 yr 21 minutes ago, jrw4 said: Just for curiosity, what happens when you go over 16? Does the system bog down, etc.? Thanks. No nothing happens. Because I have 32GB. If I didn't have 32 my system would become a stuttering mess as I approached 16. Ram is one of those things where more doesn't help you. However if you don't have enough, you have a problem. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
January 8, 20233 yr That makes sense now. Thanks. Maybe MSFS manages its memory usage to the available space. I wonder if anyone with 16GB has seen (recently at least) the effects of running low on memory. It would be useful to know the symptoms if that's the case. BTW my memory usage for MSFS with the 737 sitting on rwy 25R at KLAX and FSLTL running is around 8.5 GB according to Task Manager. Total memory usage is 14.7 GB. Turning off the traffic, lowers total usage by a few hundred MB. Again, if anyone has actually observed memory usage choking MSFS performance, it would be great to hear about it. John Wiesenfeld KPBI | FAA PPL/SEL/IFR in a galaxy long ago and far away | VATSIM PILOT P2 i7-11700K, 32 GB DDR4 3.6 GHz, MSI RTX 3070ti, Dell 4K monitor
January 8, 20233 yr 1 hour ago, micstatic said: Not exactly. You said "even 32 is overkill". If I only had 16 it wouldn't always be enough for me. Hence I don't consider 32 overkill Yes, 32 is overkill as you don't need all of it as according to everybody in this thread including yourself. You should have at least 32 on a PC in 2023 but for MSFS, it is more than you need. Therefore get 32 and not 16. It's simple to understand. 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
January 8, 20233 yr 3 hours ago, St Mawgan said: Even 32 is overkill. That is not the true. I saw on mine 20-25GB of RAM in usage, not seen that in MSFS but with other Apps . I am not only working with MSFS, Photoshop and Progis like 3DS Max and similar Ons can use that, or you have open more then one of sutch Adds.. cheers 😉 08.2024 new PC is online : ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI Mainboard, AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D Prozessor, G.Skill DIMM 64 GB DDR5-6000 (2x 32 GB) Dual-Kit, MSI GeForce RTX 4090 VENTUS 3X E 24G OC Grafikkarte, 2x WD Black SN850X NVMe SSD 4 TB - Drive C+D, WD Gold Enterprise Class 12 TB for storage HDD, Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W PC - Power supply, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO CPU Aircooler with 7 Heatpipes, Design Meshify 2 White TG Clear Tint Tower-Case, 3x 4K monitors 2x32 Samsung 1x27 LG 3840x2160, Windows11 Prof. 23H2 - now Windows11 Prof. 25H2 Flightsimulator Hardware: Honeycomb Throttle Bravo, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, Logitech Flight Joke System, XBox Controller, some Thrustmaster stuff, Winwing CDU Panels.
January 8, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, pmplayer said: That is not the true. I saw on mine 20-25GB of RAM in usage, not seen that in MSFS but with other Apps . I am not only working with MSFS, Photoshop and Progis like 3DS Max and similar Ons can use that, or you have open more then one of sutch Adds.. cheers 😉 OK, 'overkill' is a figure of speech which seems to be getting lost in translation 😉16 is not enough, 32 is more than you need - therefore get 32. 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
January 8, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, micstatic said: Disagree on that. I've gone over 16 before. Run 4k and addons + browser tabs. But haven't seen more than 18/19. I am running 2K and highest ram I have seen is around 11
January 8, 20233 yr Are we making the assumption that W11 fills RAM on a per-app basis the same way regardless of physical RAM capacity and then spills over into paging space as it did in the old days? Is it possible that today's commercial software works "intelligently" with W11 to dynamically allocate storage on a space-available basis and that paging is now greatly accelerated by the wide availability of fast SSDs, e.g., M.2? I use Photoshop on my 16GB system and it flies, especially when accelerated by my GPU. That's not to say that there certainly are applications (video production, for example) that would be greatly accelerated by the availability of extra RAM storage. That still leaves the question of how much extra RAM impacts the performance of MSFS. I don't think that reading total RAM usage in Task Manager tells us how that software will behave in a more RAM-constrained system. What it tells us is how MSFS and the OS have decided to allocated memory in a system of a given size. John Wiesenfeld KPBI | FAA PPL/SEL/IFR in a galaxy long ago and far away | VATSIM PILOT P2 i7-11700K, 32 GB DDR4 3.6 GHz, MSI RTX 3070ti, Dell 4K monitor
January 8, 20233 yr 32Gb here, and MSFS runs perfectly, with background apps like LNM, Loupedeck and Tobii running too. Surely not everybody was kung fu fighting. https://rationalwiki.org
January 8, 20233 yr 44 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I am running 2K and highest ram I have seen is around 11 Well 2k is never going to be as needy as 4k. 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
January 8, 20233 yr 9 minutes ago, micstatic said: Well 2k is never going to be as needy as 4k. That's obvious, but many people are using 2K, to get better performance, myself included. I am used to working with 8K displays at work, but on my home sim, 2K is fine.
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