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Hey there, getting my new PC tomorrow and I've been seeing a lot of things about what to turn on in the Bios, NVidia CP, and whatnot. 

 

I understand there's not a lot of tweaking to be done, but I'm also seeing a lot of folks coming in after upgrading who go through terrible trials and errors getting things right. As mine will be a completely fresh build with nothing installed, I'd sure like to skip all that.  If anyone has a little extra time, might I ask you to point me to a good link or get some bullet points for how to get things up and whatnot? 

 

It's been a long time since I had a completely 100% new rig and I appreciate any help. 

 

 

Thanks so much! 

 

  • Samsung 980 PRO 1TB (2)

  • Seasonic Focus GX 1000W Gold

  • Zotac GeForce RTX™ 4080 Trinity OC 16G

  • G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB Black DDR5 6000MHz CL36 6000 MHz (Maximum Speed) 32GB (2X16GB) More Info

  • Intel Core i7-13700KF 16-Core 3.4 GHz

  • MSI MPG Z790 Carbon WIFI DDR5

  • NZXT Kraken X73 (Black)

 

Going to be running this with a 1440p monitor (upgrading to 4k soon!) and a 1280p side monitor for charts/checklists/etc. 

 

Thanks again! 

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12 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Don't Tweak, just fly. 

 

 

Exactly, that's why I said I was aware tweaking isn't necessary.   But I heard a number of things in the bios and DX12 things are necessary.    

7 minutes ago, JughedJones said:

 

 

Exactly, that's why I said I was aware tweaking isn't necessary.   But I heard a number of things in the bios and DX12 things are necessary.    

I would stay away from the BIOS and try DX12, some have had problems with DX 12 and have gone back to DX 11. 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

I would stay away from the BIOS and try DX12, some have had problems with DX 12 and have gone back to DX 11. 

I went back to DX11 because DX12 broke a couple of addons I did not wish to give up.

35 minutes ago, JughedJones said:

Hey there, getting my new PC tomorrow and I've been seeing a lot of things about what to turn on in the Bios, NVidia CP, and whatnot. 

 

 

I basically have the same system except the 12700K.  All I did was set XMP profile in my BIOS - which overclocks a few items...  was needed to allow my 5600mhz ram to reach the rated speeds.

For Frame Generation you'll also need to enable HAGS (google it).  You may need to get GeForce experience to enable FG as well.

My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL |
| Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |

 

 

MSFS doesn’t need a bunch of tweaking like older sims thankfully.  Just do the two things that @ryanbatc mentioned, fire up the sim and fly!

Dave

Current System (Running at 4k): ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F, Ryzen 7800X3D, RTX 5090, 55" Samsung Q80T, 64GB DDR5 6000 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS & Stick, Thrustmaster TCA Quadrant & Add-on, VirtualFly Ruddo+, TQ6+ and Yoko+, GoFlight MCP-PRO and EFIS, Skalarki FCU and MCDU

30 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I basically have the same system except the 12700K.  All I did was set XMP profile in my BIOS - which overclocks a few items...  was needed to allow my 5600mhz ram to reach the rated speeds.

For Frame Generation you'll also need to enable HAGS (google it).  You may need to get GeForce experience to enable FG as well.

Why start with overclocking on a brand new PC? Try it, and if it works well, your golden. I hate fixing things that aren't broken. If I had a nickel for everytime I read about someone having CTDs, or some other problem with the sim, and one of the first thing the person is asked is if they are overclocking something.  😉

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4 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Why start with overclocking on a brand new PC? Try it, and if it works well, your golden. I hate fixing things that aren't broken. If I had a nickel for everytime I read about someone having CTDs, or some other problem with the sim, and one of the first thing the person is asked is if they are overclocking something.  😉

These are things you do - when you pay good money.  If I didn't run XMP my RAM wouldn't be set properly.  I could do the timings manually but XMP will do it all for me.  

If you're speaking of manual OCing - yes I agree - I don't do any heavy OCing until my system is setup.

My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL |
| Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |

 

 

Make sure u give sim its own separate drive

Keep TLOD no more than 200, no need to go up to 400.

10700kf, 3080 nividia, 32gbs 3400mhz, 1,000 watts power, M.2 DVMe !tb, boot, 1tb 7200rpm, storage, windows 10 home

One thing not mentioned is the 980 pro firmware issue. First thing to do after driver install is grab the Samsung magician then run for the Updates to firmware then you're good to go. No OC And XMP on as mentioned.

Your sim will still be main thread limited, and Frame Generation doesn't solve stutters from overload of the main thread.  The biggest enemy to the main thread is Terrain LOD.   Going to 4K puts another 35% demand on everything, so keep your 3440x1440 if that's what you have and see if it's good enough.  Avoid a big 4K screen the pixels just bigger and to really experience the kind of visual improvement you hope to get you need to sit close enough to the screen if you're using 4K to appreciate the difference and again--the smaller the screen the sharper the image quality.  After all is setup and proven stable I would absolutely learn the point at which you can keep all performance cores at the highest stable level w/ very reasonable core voltages.  For two years now I've run all 8 cores at 5.0Ghz on the 9900K and at only 1.215v to the cores and this is on air-cooling and I have great stability and very low temps.  

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

Sure he'll be a little cpu limited in certain scenarios but that card is a great balance with the CPU.  And FG, for me at least, tends to smooth out most stutters.  Usually if I'm still getting a stutter it's from AI traffic loading in etc.

With FG I can pan my view in Track IR and it's butter 95% of the time.

 

 

My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL |
| Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |

 

 

8 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Sure he'll be a little cpu limited in certain scenarios but that card is a great balance with the CPU.  And FG, for me at least, tends to smooth out most stutters.  Usually if I'm still getting a stutter it's from AI traffic loading in etc.

With FG I can pan my view in Track IR and it's butter 95% of the time.

And you're using 1440p and he's thinking 4K.  If the CPU can do it why not?  And be clear the 'it', implies what I said stable safe voltages. There is a linear benefit the higher the clockspeed--as long as you aren't using aggressive voltages why not shoot for 100% stutter-free butter.  Overclocking has been the proven norm for decades and until you can report 100% butter everywhere in any plane at any resolution, go for it.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

The GPU will handle 4k just fine.  And the CPU will still drive it okay.

I personally didn't want 4k but only because I'm also using VR.  If I wasn't into VR I'd absolutely get a nice 4k monitor.

My Liveries | FAA ZMP | PPL ASEL |
| Windows 11 | MSI Z690 Tomahawk | 12700K 4.7GHz | MSI RTX 4080 | 64GB 6000 MHz DDR5 | 500GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD | 2x 2TB Samsung 970 Evo M.2 | EVGA 850W Gold | Corsair 5000X | HP G2 (VR) / LG 27" 1440p |

 

 

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