I use Msi MAG B650 MORTAR wifi for my 79x3D.

As my purchase research, ASUS's X670 MOBO have high VRM temperature issue in some test, so that's ruled out for me.

And since I use msi for am4 for 5 years without problem, I got that rather than Gigabyte.

As for B650 vs X670, I didn't see any advantage for PCIE5.0 so far... now there are some review on PCIE5.0 SSD, yeah, super fast.. but.... so what?

As for USB, even with a 10x USB3.0 hub, I still managed to plug all TypeA port on the back... yeah... flight sim is a weird hobby.... there is still one port on hub, one typeC on the back and one 3.0+one 2.0 on the front panel available.

The only issue I have so far is I'll got CPU and DRAM light steady on for almost one minute before it boot normally every single time I startup the system (including restart), even longer than boot from bios to windows....tried search up but can't find solution. But I normally put my system on sleep so not much problem for me then..

On 3/26/2023 at 5:23 AM, Ray Proudfoot said:

@Mace, for the first time in my flight sim life I'm seriously considering an AMD CPU. The 7950X3D in all probability.

With GoFlight units I require a USB2 port. The GF166 units are extremely fussy about this.

Any Asus recommendations for a high-end board please?

I went with an Asus ROG Strix X670E-E.  To me this is a "high end board" but everyone has different definitions of that.  At $474 USD if you go up any you're talking $659 USD for an Asus ROG Crosshair.  The $474 board will do everything I want it to do, and is actually probably overkill for my use.

Comment about your particular situation:  USB 3.1/3.2 is supposed to be backward-compatible with USB 2.0 devices.  Given that...you would want to make sure that your GF units could plug into a USB 3 port and behave themselves.  The Asus ROG Strix X670E-E has USB 2.0 *headers* which in my way of thinking means you could hook them to a USB port and it should work, but I do not own any GoFlight items.  I'm certainly not well-schooled in USB connectivity to the point where I feel I can offer you any decent advice on this, other than to say ask someone who is.

 

@Mace, many thanks for that. Chillblast stock the ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F which has 2 USB2 rear ports. I plug all my GoFlight units into a powered hub so one on the mobo is fine.

Goflight have closed down so we’re stuck with USB2. Chillblast are now listing the 7800XD3 for pre-order so once FSL release Concorde I can go ahead with the order and sell my existing machine to a patient buyer.

3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

and sell my existing machine to a patient buyer.

sell an 8086K pc? risking to be the bearer of bad news: probably donate seems more realistic. 😊

Edited April 8, 20233 yr by turbomax

43 minutes ago, turbomax said:

sell an 8086K pc? risking to be the bearer of bad news: probably donate seems more realistic. 😊

The buyer has already seen it perform and is happy with it. His current machine is several years older than mine.

Not everyone can afford to spend £3K on a new one.

33 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

His current machine is several years older than mine.

sounds like a pc museum there, true collectors items, their value increases with age.😀

"The buyer has already seen it perform and is happy with it"

just make sure he never finds out about the 5800X3D, € 269,- on ebay

Edited April 8, 20233 yr by turbomax

@turbomax, why are you so dismissive of decent components a few years old? My system will provide him with a decent upgrade.

And if he wants a AMD CPU he’ll need a new mobo, new RAM, new graphics card, and maybe a new PSU. That will cost a lot more than 269.

Strange you don’t list the components of your presumably state of the art system. 🙄

19 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Strange you don’t list the components of your presumably state of the art system.

I didn't think anyone is interested in anyone else's pc, but since you asked:

i9-9900K @ 5 GHz, 64 GB DDR4

Gigabyte RTX 4090

HP Reverb G2 VR

Samsung 55" TV

2 x NVMe Samsung 1 + 2 TB, 2 x SSDs 4 TB Samsung

..................................

to be replaced next week by 78500X3D, 64 GB DDR5

mobo:  t.b.d

.......................

"so dismissive of decent components a few years old? "

you got it. for VR (currently 35-45 fps) even the very best is not good enough. once we hit 60-90 fps at 3kx3K in VR I will retire from hardware topics forums. promised.

Edited April 8, 20233 yr by turbomax

@turbomax, stick it in your signature or it will soon disappear.

1 hour ago, turbomax said:

sounds like a pc museum there, true collectors items, their value increases with age.😀

"The buyer has already seen it perform and is happy with it"

just make sure he never finds out about the 5800X3D, € 269,- on ebay

Ha,bloody ha!

My i7 6700k is still doing fine.

No way I could even think of looking at a new machine on my pension.😒

2 hours ago, IanHarrison said:

My i7 6700k is still doing fine.

nothing wrong with that, we all have different requirements and that's why any good app has sliders and adjustment settings.

On the DDR5 RAM: the published specs these days seem very (deliberately?) obscure. CAS36 seems to be the tightest available for 6GHz, but … what is the command rate? Is anyone making it with CR1? Or is everything CR2 or higher?

got this :ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F. Its a great board so far!  Im usually an MSI guy but this is a high quality board w no issues so far. 

8 minutes ago, wiler said:

ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F

how long does it take to complete the BIOS boot sequence? I read that many of those Ryzen X670 boards take several minutes each time after a cold boot?

Edited April 8, 20233 yr by turbomax

8 hours ago, turbomax said:

how long does it take to complete the BIOS boot sequence? I read that many of those Ryzen X670 boards take several minutes each time after a cold boot?

Does it matter, are you going somewhere in a hurry?