Asobo's July Surprise -- Last Chance Guesses

[SP2472 2,334]

The actual surprise, will be a November/December 2023 release of Flight Simulator 2024

Darryl

[Luis Hernandez 586]

10 minutes ago, SP2472 said:

a November/December 2023 release of Flight Simulator 2024

Or maybe actually in July, as it happened with FS9.

FS9 relase date: July 29th, 2003... 20 years ago!

 

[738 73]

Oh FS2004!

I loved that sim and still check the screenshots out here on Avsim 😍

[Tuskin38 6,635]

27 minutes ago, SP2472 said:

The actual surprise, will be a November/December 2023 release of Flight Simulator 2024

Darryl

Eh they already said 2024 is coming out in 2024.

[reignman40 450]

As anti-climatic as it sounds, I think it's fireworks 😆

[turbomax 3,307]

it's this local legend that many have been waiting for: the famous Transavia_PL-12_Airtruk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transavia_PL-12_Airtruk

and all new activities, now including purser career mode, first time specifically for our female users. Developed in co-operation with the SONY television show "Pan Am":

Are you wearing your girdle?

 

Make sure your hat is not askew!

 

Edited July 3, 2023 by turbomax

[abranpuko 369]

5 hours ago, Tuskin38 said:

 

Legally speaking, all the airlines that FSLTL/AIG/FSTraffic represent in their packages would be in their full rights to ask them to stop including their livery and they would have to comply if they don't want to be taken to court.

Microsoft doesn't want to get in trouble for using/selling someone's trademark without permission.

Do you really believe that? The airlines are more than happy knowing that each user advertises their image for free. Fortunately, not everything the law says is fair. If you realize it, you could also report the use of the image of your house on the bing maps, which is being used by everyone who flies over the place where you live. Life is exposed to everyone's eyes. We can't cut the melon and then not give the pieces. It would be miserable. In any case, even if the airlines do not give permission, there will always be users who will do repaints of everything. 

i have heard that there is people who forbid the sun. 😎

[Abriael 952]

1 hour ago, abranpuko said:

Do you really believe that? The airlines are more than happy knowing that each user advertises their image for free.

This absolutely does not mean that if an airline marketing manager woke up on the wrong side of the bed one morning and decided to send a DMCA letter to Microsoft, Microsoft wouldn't have to comply.

They own the right to their logos, and using them without permission can ABSOLUTELY lead to legal action. And the bigger the company that uses them is, the more likely the legal action is. 

1 hour ago, abranpuko said:

you could also report the use of the image of your house on the bing maps

The image of your house isn't covered by trademark law. An airline logo is. 

Edited July 3, 2023 by Abriael

[ShawnG 1,823]

2 hours ago, abranpuko said:

Do you really believe that? The airlines are more than happy knowing that each user advertises their image for free. Fortunately, not everything the law says is fair. If you realize it, you could also report the use of the image of your house on the bing maps, which is being used by everyone who flies over the place where you live. Life is exposed to everyone's eyes. We can't cut the melon and then not give the pieces. It would be miserable. In any case, even if the airlines do not give permission, there will always be users who will do repaints of everything. 

i have heard that there is people who forbid the sun. 😎

Lawyers for airlines don’t care enough to chase down a million broke az modders,  it would be time consuming and pointless.  If Microsoft starts doing it, those same lawyers will salivate and will fall all over themselves filing the lawsuits, because Microsoft has tons of money to sue for, and they already know how to find them. Different reality.  Modders can just do it,  Microsoft has to step carefully.

[Tuskin38 6,635]

2 hours ago, abranpuko said:

Do you really believe that?

Yes.

6 hours ago, reignman40 said:

As anti-climatic as it sounds, I think it's fireworks 😆

July 4th fireworks were included with the Texas City Update last week.

[Krakin 5,842]

MS is selling MSFS to us so they have to get licensing for the liveries. FSLTL on the other hand is free so the airlines won't care as much.

[Tuskin38 6,635]

20 minutes ago, Krakin said:

MS is selling MSFS to us so they have to get licensing for the liveries. FSLTL on the other hand is free so the airlines won't care as much.

What about FS Traffic or the older payware traffic for P3D/FSX?

[ca_metal 2,033]

8 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said:

What about FS Traffic or the older payware traffic for P3D/FSX?

They can be sued… but who do you think an airline legal department would sue: Microsoft or an small business?

Edited July 4, 2023 by ca_metal

[KL Oo 706]

24 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

They can be sued… but who do you think an airline legal department would sue: Microsoft or an small business?

If Microsoft were worried about it they would simply not permit traffic addons. They clearly aren't worried about it.

[ca_metal 2,033]

1 hour ago, KL Oo said:

If Microsoft were worried about it they would simply not permit traffic addons. They clearly aren't worried about it.

They aren’t worried that 3rd party developers are offering unlicensed liveries for the air traffic. But they probably don’t think it’s a good idea to offer themselves a product with unlicensed assets.

Things like Steam taking MSFS out of the store would be a possibility. I’ve seen Steam taking other games because IP issues. 
 

Not saying any airline would sue MS, but they probably want to play safe.

Edited July 4, 2023 by ca_metal