Like there are multiple seasons ….

 

Ugh... I've flown many times in that area in the past and it was OK. 

The tile swapping issue occurs in many parts of Europe since about 6 months and it got worse after City Update France. 

There is a thread on the official forum. Please vote here:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/aerial-ground-tiles-changing-popping-in/547197/131

 

19 minutes ago, GSalden said:

Like there are multiple seasons

Known problem and deteriorating:

https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/aerial-ground-tiles-changing-popping-in/547197

 

https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/632316-severe-texture-re-draw-popping-post-su12/?do=findComment&comment=4942775

 

It's seriously detracting from the enjoyment of the sim, so much so that I'm not firing it up as often.

This belongs to the planned visual degradation started to motivate people buying MSFS 2024 next year. More annoying bugs will follow until MSFS 2024 is finally released /sarcasm off.

The Isle of Man is just about the worst place I found for this.  There are a number of areas where is seems to occur though and I'm not sure what the cause is and asobo have not explained what it is or how they propose to remedy.

22 minutes ago, cianpars said:

The Isle of Man is just about the worst place I found for this.  There are a number of areas where is seems to occur though and I'm not sure what the cause is and asobo have not explained what it is or how they propose to remedy.

Yes, the Isle of Man is awful. Corsica is probably even worse. I also hope that they give us an explanation in the next Q&A as this is one of the more severe bugs/downgrades we‘ve seen. It completely kills the joy of flying in some places. And, as some users claim, the issue seems to be spreading.

Edited July 27, 20232 yr by Shack95

It is a bit bizarre. On one hand, they bring us lovely WUs, on the other hand we have seen a steady deterioration of the world scenery everywhere since release : tile swapping and replacement of large bands of sat imagery by offline textures . And they are aware of these problems but don't seem to care.  

 

3 hours ago, Dominique_K said:

It is a bit bizarre. On one hand, they bring us lovely WUs, on the other hand we have seen a steady deterioration of the world scenery everywhere since release : tile swapping and replacement of large bands of sat imagery by offline textures . And they are aware of these problems but don't seem to care.  

 

Tuesday I took off and flew around KTOL and except for a very narrow range around my aircraft all the ground textures were a blurry mess - I've never seen this before in this area (which I know very well IRL). Previously I was always amazed how much the area looks like what I've seen when flying the area IRL - evidently not anymore. I never thought I'd say this, but if I continue to see large areas like this I'll probably reinstall P3D and at least enjoy some good aircraft.

The biggest distinguishing benefit of MSFS was always the terrain and structures, but what I saw was a step down from even the generic looking landclass in P3D. I'm hopeful they won't keep "improving" MSFS in this direction.

I suppose on the other hand it could just be that it was a streaming issue - which is a real problem for a platform that RELIES on streaming. Possibly MSFS streaming overwhelms the available bandwidth and Microsoft is not doing enough to mitigate it.

This is looking NW-ish from stock KJFK with TLOD @ 400 - it's almost as if they've deleted a bunch of terrain tiles from the terrain database and many, many more areas don't exist in high-res any longer.

One would think there is flawless imagery available for NYC but apparently MS can't get their hands on it - this is pathetic!

Has Asobo every reacted to the degradation? 
At least some kind of update is the least they can give us ….

I‘d really like to know the reason for this. As far as I could gather from the discussions in the official forum, tile swapping seems to occur (or be visible) when in an area different imagery (or none) is allocated to different LODs. However, what I don‘t understand is why it only started at some point and hasn‘t been an issue from the start? Also after the first few Word Updates that introduced all new imagery for the respective regions, tile swapping wasn’t an issue as far as I know. What happened a few months ago? Is it the result of changes in how the sim handles LOD and imagery, maybe as side effect of performance optimizations? Or is it a „proper bug“? I really hope we get an answer, or better yet a solution, soon. 

Edited July 27, 20232 yr by Shack95

10 minutes ago, Shack95 said:

As far as I could gather from the discussions in the official forum, tile swapping seems to occur (or be visible) when in an area different imagery (or none) is allocated to different LODs. However, what I don‘t understand is why it only started at some point and hasn‘t been an issue from the start?

Source of many a pet conspiracy theory.

 

11 minutes ago, Shack95 said:

I‘d really like to know the reason for this.

👍 We all would.

 

23 minutes ago, GSalden said:

Has Asobo every reacted to the degradation?

Logged as a bug 4 months ago.

31 minutes ago, somiller said:

Tuesday I took off and flew around KTOL and except for a very narrow range around my aircraft all the ground textures were a blurry mess - I've never seen this before in this area (which I know very well IRL).

Yeah, this too is happening much more often lately.

I took these screenshots yesterday from the Guinea bush trip, a planned activity that Asobo created in an area where (supposedly) they have flown and should have noticed the issue...

 

This mess was already here in May when another user flew above it, so it's not related to City Update France:

 

13 minutes ago, F737MAX said:

Source of many a pet conspiracy theory.

That‘s why I would like to know the reasons from official sources. My post above was pure speculation, I thought that was clear. 

45 minutes ago, GSalden said:

Has Asobo every reacted to the degradation? 
At least some kind of update is the least they can give us ….

There is not one degradation but at least two kinds.

On putting offline textures instead of sat imagery, they answered me that some images have not LOD data and that the software would let them blank. So they inject these G-d awful offline textures. Why, two years ago, some of these areas were ok, is still a mystery for me.

For the textures swapping, I am not aware that they said anything.

It is high time that they do for the scenery, what they do for the avionics . I don’t hold my breath though. I may turn blue before the Fall of 2024.

As mentioned upthread there might be a 3rd issue, some bluriness of the sat imagery from time to time.

 

I have been flying this sim from the beginning and oh dear I miss those early days when they nailed it in almost every aspect.. The weather system was spot on, the clouds were a real joy to fly with, the LOD was great. Then something happened. Was it the XBOX?? Have no idea. But I can only imagine the joy having today the FBW 320 and the sim how it was in the beginning. Some things have maybe start to move to the right direction. That is, the beginning.