P3D and frame generation

[kevinc5 15]

Does P3D support frame generation?

Thanks

[ttbq1 336]

No

[brucewtb 229]

Yes a big negative for P3D compared to the other sim.  I guess another symptom of a frozen in time simulator.

Bruce

[jcomm 5,456]

No, probably because:

- They have other priorities and DLSS3 is actually pretty much useless in taking their sim into another level (?)

DLSS 3 Frame Generation- major selling point, or worthless marketing gimmick? - YouTube

- They preferred to spend their time investing in the new cloud rendering (maybe a test for what will come with v7?), the new lighting and sky colours which look astounding.

 

Edited September 24 by jcomm

[HiFlyer 9,080]

3 hours ago, jcomm said:

No, probably because:

- They have other priorities and DLSS3 is actually pretty much useless in taking their sim into another level (?)

DLSS 3 Frame Generation- major selling point, or worthless marketing gimmick? - YouTube

- They preferred to spend their time investing in the new cloud rendering (maybe a test for what will come with v7?), the new lighting and sky colours which look astounding.

 

I would only point out that's a 9 month old video, and that many of the caveats that the creator raises have been addressed,  or are being addressed by advancements in the technology.

[jcomm 5,456]

1 hour ago, HiFlyer said:

I would only point out that's a 9 month old video, and that many of the caveats that the creator raises have been addressed,  or are being addressed by advancements in the technology.

It's probably good for games, specially those running on consoles... or for those simmers who follow the FPS counter instead of the flight director... we're talking professional tools / simulator platforms here Devon...🤪

Edited September 24 by jcomm

[HiFlyer 9,080]

43 minutes ago, jcomm said:

It's probably good for games, specially those running on consoles... we're talking professional tools / simulator platforms here Devon...🤪

And it's actually probably better for professional platforms and simulators then for games, where fast movement and twitch reflexes may cause noticeable artifacts across generated frames from blur and smearing.

Your average persons not really gonna notice too much of that when gently looking from side to side in a cockpit, and certainly some slight lag is not going to be as much of a problem in a sim as it would be in a game when you're racing to get a shot in before the sugar-fueled ten year old you're facing blows you away.

Above and beyond that, even the artifacts that were noticeable, usually only to youtubers that were freezing or ballooning frames and then examining them with a magnifying glass in the first iterations of the technology, have seen said artifacts significantly reduced or eliminated by the latest generation.

For many, I would say that given that DLSS and frame generation quality has now risen to the point that it's almost indistinguishable from a regular screen, why would anybody eschew the extra frames?

 

Edited September 24 by HiFlyer

[jcomm 5,456]

Just the burden of having to pay for a 40xx instead of spending the money on good p3d addons...

Gammers play games and fight for frames... Pilots fly airplanes and put Martin on their kids and pets names... 🤓

[HiFlyer 9,080]

31 minutes ago, jcomm said:

Just the burden of having to pay for a 40xx instead of spending the money on good p3d addons...

Gammers play games and fight for frames... Pilots fly airplanes and put Martin on their kids and pets names... 🤓

Not sure how true that is....

Honestly, I've been feeling a bit like the poor relation with my shy little 4070, when pretty much everyone else on the forum seems to be grabbing 4090's.....

That may say something about how much even simmers enjoy their eye-candy.

Edited September 24 by HiFlyer

[Nuno Pinto 1,297]

Frame generation... Hope it dies a quick death like 3D TV. Rather have 60 real frames than 60 real and 60 fake for "120".

[Sethos 4,154]

9 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said:

Frame generation... Hope it dies a quick death like 3D TV. Rather have 60 real frames than 60 real and 60 fake for "120".

Spoken like someone who couldn't afford that 4xxx upgrade and see how amazing it really is.

[Nuno Pinto 1,297]

2 minutes ago, Sethos said:

Spoken like someone who couldn't afford that 4xxx upgrade and see how amazing it really is.

Don't want to offend anyone, but i buy with intelligence, not with my wallet. I can buy a 4090, i wouldn't touch anything 4000 with a barge pole.

[Sethos 4,154]

3 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said:

Don't want to offend anyone, but i buy with intelligence, not with my wallet. I can buy a 4090, i wouldn't touch anything 4000 with a barge pole.

There's only one type of person who use that tired old "muh fake frames" rhetoric with frame generation; people who haven't tried it, and they like to tell themselves how amazing they are for not buying into the hardware that allows it as well.

Edited September 24 by Sethos

[Nuno Pinto 1,297]

I am way past that mentality. Glad you're enjoying your sim.

[brucewtb 229]

10 hours ago, Nuno Pinto said:

Frame generation... Hope it dies a quick death like 3D TV. Rather have 60 real frames than 60 real and 60 fake for "120".

I think that is extremely unlikely given the enthusiasm for the tech you will find on other forums where the consensus is that it is a "gamechanger" for flight sims (at least for those that support it). The issue is not so much having 120 fps instead of 60 fps but never dropping below 60 fps regardless of a flight sim's demands.

Bruce